Name = Derek S
Location = Dalton, GA
Question/Comments = First of all I will introduce myself. I am a friend of Brad C. (in California), I live in North Georgia. Brad has lifted me up in the spirit many times throughout the last few years. I met Brad on an online discussion about Jesus is not God 😉 He was the only one that ever acknowledge my words as truth. So I gave him my number almost 3 years ago and the rest is history. He invited me to watch the online meetings. So I have a question about chapter 1?
What about Jesus as a child?
[Luk 2:49 KJV]
49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?
Do you not think this should be in the gospel of Luke? I ask because this verse doesn’t line up with the Spirit of Jesus coming exactly at the baptism by John. Even Jesus’s own words to John are astoundingly different than this idea right before John baptizes Him. Before the Spirit descends upon Him [Jesus].
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Hi, Derek. Thank you for writing.
You will remember that James said, “The body without the spirit is dead.” This tells us that Jesus had a spirit before the holy Spirit came upon him after he was baptized; otherwise, he would have been dead. It wasn’t the spirit of Jesus that came upon him; he already had his human spirit. It was God’s Son from heaven, in spirit, that came upon him.
I deal with the issue of Jesus’ sense of closeness, as a child, with God in the book. Keep watching Justin TV, and we will get to that.
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[Mat 3:15 KJV]
15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.
So I find this “suddenly” part to be unnecessary to point out. Give the “Christians” one reason to call you false and they will. We must be diligent about writing the truth from the Holy Spirit.
I will point out that Jesus’s physical body is always traced through Joseph to David and thus ultimately to Abraham. This is important to mention.
[Rom 1:3 KJV]
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
[2Ti 2:8 KJV]
8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
God is a spirit, He begets spirits
[Jhn 3:6 KJV]
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[Jhn 4:24 KJV]
24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.
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I think you have made an important point here, one that I will now stress a little more in the book than I have done heretofore.
Your comments help me see the value of those NT genealogies of Jesus.
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In the flesh Jesus was Joseph’s son.
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Legally, perhaps, but not physically. Mary was a virgin when Jesus was born.
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In the spirit He is God’s own beloved Son. When Jesus’s physical body was baptized, His ministry begin. He first was in the wilderness and then He began to minister to the lost sheep of Israel for 3 and half years. This is the first half of the last week spoken of in Daniel 9.
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It certainly does appear that way.
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When they killed Jesus that was the abomination of desolation.
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That’s a mistake, but we can talk about it another time.
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So for the timing to line up, he was in ministry for 3 and half years but I don’t understand why it matters to point out the exact moment Jesus’s own spirit left Heaven, as if it wasn’t God’s son the whole time?
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Jesus’ spirit never left heaven because it was never there. His spirit was human and was in him from birth, here on earth.
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Jesus was the second Adam because he was a second tester. He was the Son of God. He was place into Adam’s genealogy through Mary (Joseph) and put to death by a tree by the Jews. Sin came into the world through a tree (the tree of knowledge and evil). And Jesus died on a tree (He submitted Himself to our curse).
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That’s an interesting insight. Thanks.
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Yet He was the very source of all life itself (God, His Father gave Him the authority to create everything, because God is wise). Therefore death could have no hold on Him. I believe Jesus knew exactly what it was like to be a human. He experienced it all. Birth and death. He was born of water, through Mary (Joseph-David-Abraham-Adam), and born of blood through the resurrection of death, and born of the spirit through God birthing Him before time.
[1Jo 5:6-7 KJV]
6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
I would love to meet all of these wonderful brothers and sisters on the video. My God bless you all!
Love,
Derek S.
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Thank you for writing, Derek. If Jesus lets us meet you someday, we will be thankful for it.
God bless,
Pastor John