Thanks, Brad.
It is a pleasure to see how well you understand the truth and can articulate it. Isn’t it sad how people can get so wrapped up in what amounts to nothing, and yet be so blind to the what really matters to God? I see that you remembered what I told you about “Jove”, that a Roman would have pronounced it as something like “Yahweh”. That is good.
Praise Yahusshhhew…YeeHaaaHsh… Oh, forget it. Praise Jesus!
jdc
PS The following is a bit of conversation that Brother Brad sent me after he tried to reason with one of those people who are adamant that the name “Jesus is wrong, and insist that one’s standing with God is determined by a precisely correct pronunciation of his name.
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Yahweh’s Harvest The reformers came out of the Roman Catholic Church and taught a NEW GOSPEL. It was stripped of some of the Truth. It all sounds good but has been a bit corrupted. We must go back to the preachings of Yahushua and the disciples and also the prophets. Go back and check the Words of the Greek which also points toward the Hebrew language. The followers obeyed the scriptures of that time, not the traditions of men. Of coarse we know that the Priest hood was given after the transgression of the golden calf and so therefore was cut off as Yahushua came and affirmed what He said He would do. And we are now in a more responsible position as He has written it all upon our hearts. To not obey His commands of His scriptures is to spit in His face and to say we do not Love Him. Our Messiah told them they erred in the Scripture, which Scripture? The Barreans checked Paul on which scriptures? Our reformers were mistaken as they just came out of Catholicism, we must go back before the reformers, the reformers Gospel is the gospel we have been warned about, it has been tampered with. We must search and ask Yahushua to help us to see the errors, ask Him in humbleness to open our eyes. His Name really isn’t Jesus, and can’t be, as the J is only 400 to 500 years old. His Name in Hebrew has meaning also His Name is IN most of the prophets names. Jesus is a bad translation. Since we could say His Name in English there is no sense in calling Him a name given 2 translations ago which also has no biblical meaning at all. I am not sure why all this has happened except the devil was haing his fun. He changed the scriptures, he changed the times. It’s not easy to understand Biblical times, dates and seasons after being gregorianized. It’s frustrating.
Evidence Based Faith find The Name Yahweh In The Scripture. name worship is frustrating.
Evidence Based Faith the name game is tough stuff.
Evidence Based Faith like Yeshua, Yashua, Yahoshua, Yahushua..
Yahweh’s Harvest Actually the changed Name of Yahuwah is Lord in it’s place. Get e-sword, look up Lord, then look at strongs. It says Yahovah But the W is the ancient Hebrew aleph bet, while the v is the modern Hebrew. And the o is a long oo sound. That is all. It’s real easy, really. And I have a video that better explains the Messiahs Name perfectly. It would take too much for me to show you by typing it all out and I am too tired. But there is the Fathers real Name though. Yahuwah, and His Name has so much meaning. Take out the vowels and we have YHWH, which is BEHOLD the HAND, BEHOLD , the NAIL. That is amazing! This is what the Messiah said when Thomas wanted to see the scars in His hands, Our Saviour said His Name. That is so wonderful.
Yahweh’s Harvest The vowels are not as important as the sounding of it. Like their i is a long e sound, but our I is like eye usually. so the vowels are changed to compensate for sound. Once we know this then it’s easier to see why the vowels are changed around. But what is better than this is every single letter has a meaning and words have roots, and the letters have children to make more profound meanings, and the adopted children are even more precise. Even the ancient Hebrew aleph bet is like a family and shows His marriage covenant. He is all about marriage and being as One.
Like AB is the Father and ABBA is the Father Double portion, In Heaven. The Word says to call no man Fahter but your Father In heaven, yet we call Abraham Father. In English it makes no sense, BUT in Hebrew it makes perfect sense. An AB is the leader, protector, strength of the tabernacle, home. And ABBA has His strength and protection at both ends as in the wilderness when He was at their front and their rear.
A man is ADAM (short a sound) and a woman is the AM, which is strength, leader, and water, together means to be the strong glue or enriching from the inside. Add the N which is continuance to the AM and you get Amen or Amien, which is what she is to her husband, His Amen. She owns the tent while He provides for the tent, he is the warrior to protect his tent. They both have the A in the relationship which is the Father (leader and strength and protector) If you take the A out of the relationship then they will destroy eachother. The M which is the living water on the up side and chaos on the down side. The M then turns from the living water to teeth that devour or chaos. It’s a lovely language. And the old one is real easy to understand. There are charts online for the Ancient Hebrew.Yahweh’s Harvest Yahoooshooowah, LOL the vowels are there only for sound, not for spelling. That is why so many have their own preference. I still say Yahshua even though I know now from old writings found that it is Yahushua. Ill try to find that video so you can see where they found this. Im so tired right now that I cannot think of it. But it still means Yah the Salvation. Or BEHOLD the HAND is our Salvation. The Hand is a working Hand and the Behold is also a window. meaning LOOK, SEE, BEHOLD.
Yahweh’s Harvest You can know what kicking against the pricks means in the Hebrew and leaves a question mark in English. These things are profound and has richer deeper meaning. Ill explain it later though cuz I just cannot keep my eyes open any more. I am so sorry. Shalom friend.
Brad The LORD knows the heart; the LORD knows our intentions regardless of the proper Hebrew word, for goodness sake, therefore this name game thing is ridiculous.
Shakespeare: “A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.”Brad BTW: “Yaweh” can mean Satan too. (Spelled differently, as “Jove”. . . the chief god of the Roman Empire). The high priest was, of course, Pontifex Maximus, and served Jove in the highest religious position of the time. Where is good ol’ Pontifex Maximus nowadays? Where is he preaching? Take a guess.
Yahweh’s Harvest Yah not Jove. No, it does matter. Jesus is not his name. Intentions are not enough, seeking is what He says He wants. Those who SEEK me will find me. Don’t be satisfied with what the church who came from the reformers who were tainted and came out of the catholic church, says. They did not know what the true Word said. The Barreans checked Paul on which scriptures to see if he was telling the truth? Yahushua said they erred in THE SCRIPTURES, which ones are the scriptures? YHWH is not into psycobabble and human minds making up whatever they please. The people in the wilderness may have had good intentions also, but He wanted their obedience with all their hearts. He wanted them to also have a circumcised heart, and the 2 greatest commandments are from the Torah scriptures.
Brad And a circumcised heart is accomplished in this current dispensation. . in what way?
Yahweh’s Harvest In walking in all his ways with all your heart all your soul and all your might, Deut 6 and 1John 2
Brad Hey there! [insert name here], thanks for your prompt reply. I think you are partly right, for it is certainly good and right to walk in all his ways. . etc. But is that, in itself, circumcision of the heart? I think not. That is the RESULT of being circumcised in the heart.
Paul wrote two very important things about circumcision:
Romans 2:28,29. . .‘For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. . . but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, in [by] the spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.’
AND. . .
Philippians 3:3. . .‘For we are the true circumcision, who worship in the spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh.’
That seems to suggest, quite strongly, that those who have been circumcised in this dispensation have been circumcised by the holy ghost, in their hearts, not with a physical law written on stone, for the law is now “written” [by the indwelling of the spirit] in their hearts—they who have received the spirit of God. Circumcision is an act of God, via the holy ghost; not something we can accomplish in the flesh—by effort or by doing good works or even by faith.
The reason I explain this is because there is an assumption that all Christians have the holy spirit, and—as you wrote—they are circumcised by walking in all his ways with all of their heart and soul and might. But I affirm that a believer is circumcised on the day of his or her new birth, when the spirit enters their temple, with joy and gladness and praise of God in an unknown tongue; under the visible POWER of God this is an obvious act of God. That blessing upon a man or woman enables them to finally worship God acceptably, IN the SPIRIT; no other worship counts with God.
I believe that is the true circumcision: the baptism of the holy ghost; the new birth.
Paul also said that “no one can say Jesus is Lord, but by the holy ghost.” Any proclamation of ‘Jesus is Lord’ that is not inspired by or compelled by the holy spirit is only man’s mouth—man’s lips saying words. It is the Spirit that is the witness, and the spirit speaks in another tongue, with overwhelming joy and power and authority.
So, my question, friend of Yahushuah: have you been truly circumcised in the heart, by the experience of being born anew? You seem to be well-researched on your name topic, and I respect your zeal, and your scholarship, but I’m wondering if you are making the mistake of “majoring in the minors.” Like the Pharisees who tithed ever-so faithfully, with painstaking detail, but neglected the weightier provisions of the law.
First things first: “Repent and be baptized.” I want you to FEEL what circumcision of the heart feels like! Then, perhaps, we can talk about the correct name of the Lord, and whether it is so critical or not. True, His name is originally the Hebrew name, as you say, but after all, we ARE English-speaking persons. And I believe that the Father doesn’t judge according to the correctness of our words, but by the intent of our hearts— and the love we have for His beloved Son— the Savior.
If I’m wrong, please show me, so I can understand your point more perfectly.”