Creation Debate

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Hi, Pastor John;

Tom and I were watching the debate last night. After Ken Ham gave his 30 minute presentation, the Spirit of God fell briefly and we were praying for him. My spirit was saying, “God, that’s got to count for something. . . God help him.”

Bill Nye was saying that he wants to discover the origin of Creation and the beginning of Life, and Ken Ham, kept repeating to Bill Nye, “I know a book”. I so wish he was filled with the Spirit of God and say like the song that Brother Earl sings, “I Know A Man”. But, at least Ken is doing the best he can with the knowledge his has. He just needs the Revelation of Jesus in his heart — it sure does make you want to pray for him.

I was telling Tom, “It’s a matter of the heart”, as you say to us all of the time. Hearts that are for Ken Ham will sway to him, and hearts for Bill Nye will lean towards that way.

I thought, “Wouldn’t it be wonderful if they found Noah’s ark, tomorrow”? Tom said. “It wouldn’t change anything in Bill Nye”. I said, “Yeah, though if one would raise from the dead” . . .and one has, Jesus. But, at least it would present another argument for Ken Ham and maybe set more people on course to seek Jesus.

I thought the same thing Aaron N. did about sending Ken a copy of the Father and Son book. I just want to pray for that man.

It really makes you appreciate the holy Ghost, “The Witness ” which the Father has given concerning His Son.

Billy
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Hi Billy.

We watched the debate here, too, and we had some of the same feelings that you and Tom were having. “I know a book” is one thing, but “I have been touched by the power of God” is so much more. Offering men the Bible as our best evidence of Creation misses the mark, somewhat the way that pointing to an empty grave as our best evidence of the Resurrection. God has given us His Witness – the Spirit! Oh, that Ken Ham was able to offer that testimony to the world! I was on my knees later, after everyone here was in bed, praying for him, asking God to bless him for his effort, and asking God to fill him with the real witness to Creation, and the Resurrection, and everything else the Bible tells us – the baptism of the Spirit.

There were other thoughts I had after the debate which applied to the other man. During the question and answer period, someone asked each man what it would take to change his mind about what he believed about evolution/creation. That other man, obviously an atheist, responded by suggesting that he would change if someone could show him an example of one kind of fossil mingled with with another kind of fossil in a particular kind of rock. He was not telling the truth. He will never change because he is a proud fool. “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God” (Ps. 14:1), and fools cannot learn, even if you try to pound truth into him. “Crush a fool in a mortal with a pestle along with the wheat, and still, his foolishness will not depart from him” (Prov. 27:22). “A reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool” (Prov. 17:10). Without mercy from the God whom they mock, even erudite fools such as the one who debated Ken Ham last night will not believe, Jesus said, “even if one rose from the dead” (Lk. 16:30-31; see also 22:67).

Let’s pray that God will raise up prophets, apostles, teachers, pastors after His own heart, healers and miracle workers – men who will have the knowledge and power to present to the world God’s testimony to His Son. How sad it is that the body of Christ is so weak and divided that words are all that it seems to be able to offer the world in defense of the gospel, for as Paul said, “The kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.” The saints need a refreshing, Billy, if we are ever really going to be witnesses to this lost generation of the Savior it needs so much.

Pastor John