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  • Chapter 1

    Name = Derek S
    Location = Dalton, GA

    Question/Comments = First of all I will introduce myself. I am a friend of Brad C. (in California), I live in North Georgia. Brad has lifted me up in the spirit many times throughout the last few years. I met Brad on an online discussion about Jesus is not God 😉 He was the only one that ever acknowledge my words as truth. So I gave him my number almost 3 years ago and the rest is history. He invited me to watch the online meetings. So I have a question about chapter 1?

    What about Jesus as a child?

    [Luk 2:49 KJV]

     49 And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father’s business?

    Do you not think this should be in the gospel of Luke? I ask because this verse doesn’t line up with the Spirit of Jesus coming exactly at the baptism by John. Even Jesus’s own words to John are astoundingly different than this idea right before John baptizes Him. Before the Spirit descends upon Him [Jesus].
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    Hi, Derek. Thank you for writing.
    You will remember that James said, “The body without the spirit is dead.” This tells us that Jesus had a spirit before the holy Spirit came upon him after he was baptized; otherwise, he would have been dead. It wasn’t the spirit of Jesus that came upon him; he already had his human spirit. It was God’s Son from heaven, in spirit, that came upon him.
    I deal with the issue of Jesus’ sense of closeness, as a child, with God in the book. Keep watching Justin TV, and we will get to that.
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    [Mat 3:15 KJV]

    15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

    So I find this “suddenly” part to be unnecessary to point out. Give the “Christians” one reason to call you false and they will. We must be diligent about writing the truth from the Holy Spirit.

    I will point out that Jesus’s physical body is always traced through Joseph to David and thus ultimately to Abraham. This is important to mention.

    [Rom 1:3 KJV]

    3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

    [2Ti 2:8 KJV]

    8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

    God is a spirit, He begets spirits

    [Jhn 3:6 KJV]

    6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

    [Jhn 4:24 KJV]

    24 God [is] a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship [him] in spirit and in truth.

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    I think you have made an important point here, one that I will now stress a little more in the book than I have done heretofore.
    Your comments help me see the value of those NT genealogies of Jesus.
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    In the flesh Jesus was Joseph’s son.
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    Legally, perhaps, but not physically. Mary was a virgin when Jesus was born.
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    In the spirit He is God’s own beloved Son. When Jesus’s physical body was baptized, His ministry begin. He first was in the wilderness and then He began to minister to the lost sheep of Israel for 3 and half years. This is the first half of the last week spoken of in Daniel 9.
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    It certainly does appear that way.
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    When they killed Jesus that was the abomination of desolation.
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    That’s a mistake, but we can talk about it another time.
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    So for the timing to line up, he was in ministry for 3 and half years but I don’t understand why it matters to point out the exact moment Jesus’s own spirit left Heaven, as if it wasn’t God’s son the whole time?
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    Jesus’ spirit never left heaven because it was never there. His spirit was human and was in him from birth, here on earth.
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    Jesus was the second Adam because he was a second tester. He was the Son of God. He was place into Adam’s genealogy through Mary (Joseph) and put to death by a tree by the Jews. Sin came into the world through a tree (the tree of knowledge and evil). And Jesus died on a tree (He submitted Himself to our curse).
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    That’s an interesting insight. Thanks.
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    Yet He was the very source of all life itself (God, His Father gave Him the authority to create everything, because God is wise). Therefore death could have no hold on Him. I believe Jesus knew exactly what it was like to be a human. He experienced it all. Birth and death. He was born of water, through Mary (Joseph-David-Abraham-Adam), and born of blood through the resurrection of death, and born of the spirit through God birthing Him before time.

    [1Jo 5:6-7 KJV]

    6 This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

    7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

    I would love to meet all of these wonderful brothers and sisters on the video. My God bless you all!

    Love,
    Derek S.
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    Thank you for writing, Derek. If Jesus lets us meet you someday, we will be thankful for it.

    God bless,
    Pastor John

  • Damien – Reading Chapter 6, section 1

    Thank you for reading the beginning of Chapter 6 with us tonight. I still am amazed at reading the thoughts in this book, thoughts from Jesus which most people on earth have never had before, and here we are – reading, understanding, and loving them! Paragraph after paragraph, page after page. What we read tonight is loaded with good food for God’s people, and I loved every bit of it.

    Donna
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    Hey Donna.

    I love the fact that we are so blessed that when we, as a group, read such things as the Father and the Son book, there are many helpful comments made and criticisms offered along the way. Jesus really has made us a family in the Spirit. That is such a blessing!

    But you bring up another point that should not be forgotten as we lock horns over punctuation and stylistic issues, and that is, the book itself. The truths we are reading, in each section, in every paragraph and sentence, are precious! We do not want that to be lost as we strive to perfect the writing out of what God has shown us.

    Now, on to the next section!

    Pastor John
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    Yes!

    There is hardly a paragraph in this book that does not contain more truth than most people hear in a lifetime. It is hard to describe, but there are so many questions answered and issues dealt with by this book which were things I thought about, even before the age of ten. There was no one around me who thought much about them, much less could answer them, so it was a personal and lonely experience to think those things. But in this book, here are the questions, here are the thoughts, and here are so many answers, and the humility to simply believe God when human words fall short in explaining God’s age long mysteries. It shows me how God has been working in my life preparing me to be here and to hear these things. Precious! That is the word!

    Damien

  • “Gird up the loins of your mind”

    Hi John,

    A few weeks ago I had a dream, and in the dream, the most important part to me was when I heard a voice say, “Gird up your loins”. I really felt like the spirit was saying this.

    Last night, I heard a man quote that biblical phrase in the documentary we all watched last night, “Captivated”. I just would like to hear what you say this phrase meant when in times past it was spoken. I feel like the documentary last night was well worth seeing, and I am praying that Jesus will help us with moderation in all things.

    Thank you,
    Caroline
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    Hi Caroline:

    The way the man described it last night was right. Ancient, robe-wearing people had to tie up (“gird up”) their robes around their waist so that their legs would be free to run. It was a phrased used for ordinary people, not athletes. Athletes in the Ancient Greek culture did not wear any clothing at all when they competed, whether in races or other forms of athletic contests.

    Then, the phrase,”Gird up the loins of your mind” means, basically, “Get ready to work!”

    jdc

  • The Cross: Some research

     I can’t figure him out! I don’t get it!

    I have this KJV “Expositor’s Study Bible,” with verbose verse-by verse explanations by brother Jimmy Swaggart.
    Someone gave it to me a long while ago. I sometimes go to it to see his point of view, and evaluate it against what I feel in the Spirit.

    Aaaaagghhh! I am totally exasperated by this poor, confused brother.
    How can a man who is precisely right about the New Birth—for all the right reasons—be so off the mark with “saved”, and “water baptism”, and “Church”?!!

    Most annoying of all is his repetitive, vehement insistence that “the object of a believer’s faith must be THE CROSS and ONLY the Cross”. This statement continues to completely baffle me. EVERY time that phrase comes up (and it’s way too often in his footnotes interspersed between the text), my Spirit winces. It doesn’t sound right. It doesn’t feel right.

    I have continually asked God, with earnest prayer, to reveal to me WHY Jimmy Swaggart says that; and why it’s wrong. (I simply cannot understand his point at all, whether or not it’s true or false. How can one put their faith in that object, when that object merely served to kill the Lord, and Jesus’ sacrifice took place later, in heaven, before the Father, who accepted it, and then sent back the SPIRIT to guide us into all truth, empowering us to live holy lives?) The only right answer (I think) is that our faith ought to be in the power of God, via the holy ghost, and not in the wooden tree that tortured Jesus. It’s what occurred beyond the Cross that makes the difference! Isn’t it?

    Swaggart backs up his argument, voraciously, by stating “the source of everything that a believer needs is found entirely in the Cross, and in Christ crucified. If our faith is in anything else, it’s a deception from the devil; a false doctrine. . . and the holy Spirit will not help us.” Only by placing our faith and trust entirely “in the finished work of the Cross” gives the Holy Spirit the liberty to work in our lives on our behalf. He goes on to assert that “the Cross is the only means by which a sinner can be saved, and the only means by which a Christian can walk in victory.” But, even if that were true— HOW do you put your faith in an object that merely tortured and killed the Savior?! First I want to understand Swaggart’s point, then refute it with spiritual truth; but I can’t!

    He also writes this: “That’s why Paul kept using the phrase, “in Christ”. .. over and over. The phrase refers to what Jesus did at the Cross.”

    No it doesn’t. It refers to those who are born of the Spirit; those who have been crucified with Christ by Spirit baptism, becoming in Him through a spiritual transformation. Am I wrong?!

    John, would you take a few minutes to clarify whether or not I am correct or whether I need correcting?

    And please tell me what Christians such as Jimmy Swaggart mean when they proclaim such a doctrine?

    And. . . Where did they go off the track?

    brad
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    Hi Brad.

    There is no pleasure, is there, in trying to make sense out of the senseless doctrines of Christianity? If Jesus had been hacked to death with an ax, would Christian ministers then teach that the only hope of mankind is to put our faith in an ax?

    I must disagree with your comment about Brother Swaggart is “precisely right” in his doctrine of the new birth. I know that is not the case. Anyone who teaches sinners to “repeat after me, and get saved” cannot possibly be teaching the truth about the new birth. A person is not born again until Jesus baptizes him into his body with the holy ghost (1Cor. 12:13), with the evidence of speaking in tongues (or “stammering lips”). Brother Swaggart does not teach that.

    Pray for him. He is very confused. As for explaining to me what such misguided teachers mean when they say what they say, I simply cannot. The only thing I feel confident of is that they think they are telling the truth, and we should ask God to help them do it, the way He has helped us.

    As for where ministers “got off track”, well, the perversion of the faith of Christ began while the apostles still lived, and it has gone downhill since then, just as Jesus, Paul, Peter, and others foretold would happen (2Tim. 3:13). And here we are, trying to help God’s children who are deceived by false teachings. The only thing they feel confident of is that what we are telling them cannot possibly be the truth. Their teachers have assured them of that.

    Pastor John

  • Fasting 2

    Pastor John:

    I love this [your explanation about fasting]. In the New Testament they ask Jesus why he and his disciples didn’t fast.
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    Yes, and that is because Jesus was teaching his disciples to fast God’s way, as described in Isaiah 58.
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    You said Isaiah 58 has nothing to do with food. So what is meant by the one in the New Testament? Is it also hungry for him?
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    Yes. If you read Isaiah 58, then you saw that God’s description of a true fast included no mention of doing without food.
    That is the New Testament form of fasting, the one Jesus sent the Spirit to enable us to keep.
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    And how did you know it had nothing to do with food?
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    What indication do we have that God accepts men’s willful abstaining from food, when He said “Is not this the fast that I have chosen?”, and then in His description, says nothing about refusing food. Strong-willed men can fast themselves to death for one of their vain causes, and some have done so. But without the holy ghost, nothing men do counts for anything in heaven. Paul said that without the love of God, which is poured out into our hearts by the holy ghost, even giving our bodies to be burned will benefit us none at all (1Cor. 13). How much less will it profit us, then, to decide that we will not eat?
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    Don’t laugh at me I am learning. I am on a fast now. Thought i was. I thought it was staying away from food and a time to seek the Lord.

    Star
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    God is good, Star, and He knows how little we understand about His ways until he reveals Himself to us.
    Your determination to do without food means nothing to God, but your desire to seek Him and to please Him means very much. He loves you. That is why He put it in your heart to ask these questions.

    Pastor John

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    Fasting

    January 25, 2013

    Hi Pastor John,

    Hope everyone is well! I am writing to ask your advice on something (again ). I have been wondering about fasting. Did that stop when everything began to be done in the spirit? I know some of the saints have spoke of fasting to get an answer to prayer, why do people fast? Are there many forms of fasting? I do not feel led to fast but at this point I will do whatever it takes to reach God. How does God feel about fasting?

    I feel like a 5-year-old, asking so many questions at once. I’m sorry for that, but I really have no idea how fasting fits into the truth.

    Thank You
    Beth
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    Hi Beth.

    My Uncle Joe said it best: “Fasting is when you get so hungry [for God] that you don’t eat.”
    Fasting by your own will power or understanding will get you nowhere with God. My father said that to truly fast means that to have your mind on God to such an extent that He makes you forget about food. God’s fast, the one He has chosen (Isa. 58), has nothing whatsoever to do with food.

    Pastor John

  • The reliability of Bible

    Hi John,

    I’ve been wondering about several things regarding the Bible. . .

    In all your research of the development of Christianity (Xty) your book, The Iron Kingdom, you’ve discovered glaring errors and inconsistencies in many translations, and you’ve found that some manuscript texts were deliberately mistranslated — sabotaged by churchmen and King James, and you’ve uncovered despicable corruptions in the history of the institution of Xty, too numerous to mention. Additionally, you’ve researched the early writings of the fathers of Xty — the “apostolic (apostate) fathers” — and found their propagation of myths and falsehoods to be incomprehensible; plus, your research on Trinitarian doctrine has proven, to my satisfaction, that churchmen also misrepresented the truth regarding the Father, the Son and the holy Spirit.

    So, my first question is: If men have done so much damage to the manuscripts that exist, in interpretation and/or translation, why do we accept the validity of the canon of scripture? Didn’t Xtn churchmen arrange the canon of scripture, or did God (via the influence of the holy Spirit)?

    Why are the Gnostic gospels not acceptable? (I’ve never researched them; just curious.)
    Why are some of the Apocrypha, the Catholic books, not included in the regular Bible?
    Who are the men who compiled the Bible and why should we consider their choices reliable, especially since you have plainly seen so many instances of Xtn error and intentional manipulation in the history of the Bible?

    The reason I am curious is because there is this new trend in our culture of introducing the possibility that Judas and Mary Magdalene and Thomas (and even Jesus Himself) wrote a “gospel” book, but they were disregarded or hushed-up by the patriarchy of the Xtn Church as being invalid, inauthentic hoaxes. I would like to know how to respond to those who are proposing this possibility that these other books might shed more light on the truth about Jesus, which they claim have prevented mankind from knowing the “whole story.”

    I hope I haven’t asked too many questions.

    Now, I am aware that those who are making such claims as “Jesus might have been married,” etc., do not have the spiritual understanding that comes with the holy Ghost. They are usually scholarly Christians who are trying to revise what they believe are the misconceptions and/or suppressed truths of Xty. They are often led by feminist agendas, and sometimes by scholars who, like your seminary professors, are essentially unbelievers, and want to discredit the Bible, and paint a different picture based on their own imaginations, and being without the power of God to guide them properly, they’ve invented these notions because they don’t know the truth.

    I know, by my experiences, that Jesus is alive and is still communicating with all His children. I know the depth of the revelations you have received regarding the truth about the Father and the Son. I know that speaking in tongues is the sign of the new birth, and it’s substantiated in the scriptures, both OT and NT. And the Pentecost experience proves the validity of Jesus’ sacrifice, etc. . .

    Hope you will address my questions, soon. The Iron Kingdom book might well influence a lot of people, even if self-published, because God’s people, especially, need to hear that truth and escape the inevitable destruction of that religion called Xty. I hope you will return to writing on it soon, after you’re satisfied with the completion of God Had a Son Before Mary.

    My best guess is that the spirit of unbelief compels men and women to find some other explanation for Jesus’ life and death. They ignore the holy Ghost and the importance of repentance and the New Birth experience, and devise other ways to explain Jesus’ purpose on earth, being careful to not disregard His “divinity”, but essentially making Him out to be less than who He really is, to suit their own imaginations.

    Brad
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    Hi Brad.

    I have read and re-read stories about how the present canon of scripture came to be what it is, but there is knowledge absent in all of them which only Jesus can provide us. Until he does, we can only speculate what that process of selection really entailed.

    Some of the apocryphal books, a few of which you mentioned, are mythological foolishness, written by Christians and/or others who knew nothing about whatsoever God or the truth of the gospel (The books of Judith, Tobit, Bel and the Dragon, etc.) In a few of the apocryphal books, however, one can sense an occasional spark of truth, which leaves the impression that there may have been an original document worth reading but was corrupted by later editors. The present state of all the apocryphal books, though, is such that we are left with hardly anything edifying. I have yet to find a book reckoned among the apocryphal books, or “lost books of the Bible” that is worth spending much time with.

    We know from the Bible itself that anointed men of God wrote books that have been lost, such as Paul’s letter to the Laodiceans. Until those books are discovered (wouldn’t that be great?), we have to be content with what we have (which is also great).

    The best we can do is to learn well the books of the Bible well, the books we know are of God. With the guidance of the Spirit, we can do that; and, if we do that, we will be able to discern what is of God and what is not of God when we are confronted by it, whether it is a gospel that men say Judas or Thomas wrote, or a Christian minister claiming to represent Christ. Knowing God is more than knowing the scriptures, as you know. And if we know God, Jesus said, we are living in eternal life (Jn. 17:3).

    I hope you are recovering well from your surgery.

    Pastor John

  • last night’s meeting

    Pastor John,

    The message and music last night felt so clean. Where can you go and here such truth and feel these things that God has for his children? What a refuge city we have entered into! God is so good to us!

    Billy M

  • Tonights Meeting

    Hi Pastor John,

    What an honor to be a partaker of such holy thing! The songs, the preaching, the testimonies! Where else can you find such wonderful heavenly blessings? When you and Donna were singing her new songs, all I could do was set back in my chair and let the words of the song just resonate through my body. “Magnify our King! Let the whole world know there is a king!” I could feel every word of it in my heart, tears flowing down my face for the honor to know he is our king and the privilege to feel his sweet spirit in my soul.

    It is not a light thing if we fall in love with what he has done for us. There is no way we can sin if we do. That love of God will not let anything interfere with that sweet fellowship in his spirit. It feels to good, and we will love it too much to even contemplate any wrong thought, much less act on it. I am just so thankful for what he has done for us!

    Stuart

  • His Voice

    Hi Pastor John,

     

    I am so thankful for what God has done for us! He sent his Son so that we could be recreated in this body here on this earth. Without the spirit that his Son purchased for us with his own suffering here in this earthly body, we all would be lost. He did it because he loved us and wanted us to be where he is with his Father, and he knew the only way we could do that was by being re-created and filled with the same spirit he and his Father had.

     
    What an honor it is to be a partaker of such heavenly gifts, receiving and being recreated and filled with his spirit! He gave us everything we need to see him face to face one day. It was not just an option, an extra blessing; it was a necessity, and we cannot live holy without it. He sent the spirit to guide us nto all truth and give us the strength to do what He put in our hearts.

     
    Too many times I have seen and heard things like, “I wish I would have done this, or I felt like I should have done that” (and I have done it myself), and when we first get the spirit, we do have to learn his voice and sometime we may choose the wrong thing, but we learn from that, not just what was right and wrong, but his voice so that the next time, we will follow the voice and do the right thing no matter what it looks like.

     
    I want to honor him by following his voice and keeping my life clean before him. I want to hear his voice and move right away, and not hesitated and wonder and doubt what I am hearing from him. I know I can do that. I know we can do that, by keeping him first in our lives and not letting the things of this world rob us from hearing his voice, or giving in to some pleasure that makes this body feel good for a little while but pollutes the soul.

     
    I owe him everything, and I love what he has done for us, and it is in our hearts to do what honors him if we are thankful for what he done for us. I want to keep my ears (my heart) clean and ready and waiting to hear the voice of my Father and his Son.

     

    Stuart

  • “evil doer” license plate

    Pastor John,
    As I was sitting in traffic I saw this license plate. I couldn’t believe my eyes!
    Michelle

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    Hi Michelle.

    That is only to be expected now. The last presidential election proclaimed to the world that this country has chosen evil over good. Very many people in this country are now proud to be immoral, and they think there is something fundamentally wrong with anyone who is not immoral, especially if that person loves the gospel of the Lord Jesus. As Peter said, “They think it strange that you do not run with them.”

    It has been a long time in developing, but as that license plate indicates, this is now the kind of culture we live in. Pray that God will raise up young people to be a light for the generation that is growing up.

    Pastor John
    evildoer

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