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I don’t know when this article was written but I want you to know that it
has been a blessing. Overheard a coworker talking about T/O was old
testament and it really blew my mind that someone believed that so I was
challenged to study to show myself approved.
Thanks a lot
Sonji P
Hey there.
Tonight when reading about how God is protecting the tares and the wheat, I had the thought, “Protect from what? God’s own will?” I thought of a tornado. If one comes around, is it not God who sent it? What is He not in complete control of? So I thought I would see where in the Bible the word “protect” was. I was amazed to find that “protect” or “protector” or even “guardian” was not even in the Bible. The word protection is used one time in Deut. 32:38 when God is referring to other gods or idols worshipped by a crooked and perverse generation. Isn’t there even something written about “guardian angels”? Seems to me that whatever befalls anyone is simply God’s will. So is “protecting” the tares the right word to use? I do feel protected living in this world, knowing that I do have a relationship with God and an understanding of all things. Or is what I feel more of a peace of mind, knowing that whatever befalls me is the will of God for my good? Any thoughts?
Bob
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Hi Bob:
The Hebrew and Greek words for “protect” are in the Bible many times; they are just translated as “keep”. “guard”, “watch”, etc., in the King James Version.
You don’t want to develop a fatalistic view of “all things working for our good”. Some people do that in order to excuse doing nothing when confronted with difficult circumstances. God sends things our way for many different reasons. Sometimes, He is trying to motivate us to DO something instead of sitting back with a yawn and saying, “Well, God’s in charge.”
But through it all, all of God’s children, even the foolish, we are being protected, to various degrees, even if that word is hardly ever used in the KJV.
jdc
Pastor John:
What was Job thinking, when he mentioned the iniquities of his youth? Do you think that he pondered this was a possibility for the events transpiring ?
Am I remembering this correctly? If yes, does this mean he somewhat agreed with his comforters in at least the theory of their reasoning?
Wendell
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I believe that Job agreed with his three friends in principle. He just could not agree with them that he had caused his sufferings by committing sin. Yes, Job said at one point that God was calling him into account for the sins of his youth. But that was just a guess. Job had no idea what was happening to him.
jdc
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Good Morning John,
How does a believing spouse sanctify his or her unbelieving spouse? And also that the children become clean? In verse 1Corinthians 7:13, it states that he is pleased to dwell with her. But they are still unequally yoked in their marriage are they not? In verse 12, Paul says this is he (Paul) speaking and not he Lord as in verses 9 and 10. Thanks.
Jim K
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Hi Jim:
The unbelieving spouse is sanctified by Christ, but using the believing spouse to lead the unbeliever to him, and that WILL happen every time that the unbelieving spouse is truly “pleased to dwell with” the believing spouse. The only way we can know if the unbelieving spouse is really “pleased to dwell with” the believing spouse is that he comes and is sanctified by the holy ghost baptism. We have seen examples of this. For one example, Rob was truly “pleased to dwell with” Donna, after she found the way, and he (eventually) followed her into Christ. Brother Keith is another example, and Bob and Cliff. And there are some women, like Caroline, who were pleased to dwell with their believing husbands, and they proved it by coming to Christ and being sanctified themselves.
Of course, it is true that until unbelievers are sanctified by Christ, they are still unequally yoked to their believing spouses, as you pointed out. Paul’s statement “else were your children unclean” is harder to understand because everybody is unclean until cleansed by God’s Spirit. He makes it sound as if children are not unclean in God’s sight if both the parents are believers, but I know from experience that offspring of godly parents can be as worldly as offspring of sinners. So, Paul is probably referring to how God feels in general about believers mating with each other as opposed to children born of “unequally yoked” parents.
Good questions.
jdc
John,
What does the “scapegoat” in the Old Testament atonement ceremony represent?
Wendell
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Hi Wendell,
I have always understood the scapegoat to represent the risen Christ. There were two goats used for that ceremony, you know. One was killed and the other released. In the OT, they could not killed and raise up the same animal; so, I assume that both represented Christ, one slain for sin and the other bearing the sins away.
jdc
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John,
Why a goat? The Son of God is called the Lamb of God and they used a lamb without spot or blemish in the pass over, can the scapegoat be translated another way? I know it make’s sense what you said, but the goat part seems out of place to me. But it does not really matter if he wanted to use a goat, I get the point and am very thankful to be on this side of what the Son came and done for us.
Stuart
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Hi Stuart,
First of all, a goat was a clean animal, under the law, just as sheep was.
But to answer your question, it maybe symbolic of the human temple of the holy ghost. We are sanctified, Hebrews says, “by the offering of the body” of Jesus Christ. The body, by nature is unclean, and yet, it is holy if it is sanctified by the Spirit.
That’s the best I can do to explain why God chose to use goats for the atonement ceremony.
jdc
John,
This morning I felt to study the word “humble” and “humilty” in the Bible. After searching the verses on it, I copied them and read them though. As I read through, the Spirit touched me, sweetly… oh to walk with this kind of heart, with this kind of attitude. It surely comes from Him.
After I read the email Amy sent you, about what you had sent in 2006 about valuing people and our gifts, it felt much like what I read on being “humble”. These are the verses that I read today:
(Deu 8:2) And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
(Deu 8:16) Who fed thee in the wilderness with manna, which thy fathers knew not, that he might humble thee, and that he might prove thee, to do thee good at thy latter end;
(2Ch 7:14) If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
(2Ch 34:27) Because thine heart was tender, and thou didst humble thyself before God, when thou heardest his words against this place, and against the inhabitants thereof, and humbledst thyself before me, and didst rend thy clothes, and weep before me; I have even heard thee also, saith the LORD.
(Job 22:29) When men are cast down, then thou shalt say, There is lifting up; and he shall save the humble person.
(Psa 9:12) When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble.
(Psa 10:12) Arise, O LORD; O God, lift up thine hand: forget not the humble.
(Psa 10:17) LORD, thou hast heard the desire of the humble: thou wilt prepare their heart, thou wilt cause thine ear to hear:
(Psa 34:2) My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.
(Psa 69:32) The humble shall see this, and be glad: and your heart shall live that seek God.
(Pro 6:3) Do this now, my son, and deliver thyself, when thou art come into the hand of thy friend; go, humble thyself, and make sure thy friend.
(Pro 16:19) Better it is to be of an humble spirit with the lowly, than to divide the spoil with the proud.
(Pro 29:23) A man’s pride shall bring him low: but honour shall uphold the humble in spirit.
(Isa 57:15) For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
(Jer 13:18) Say unto the king and to the queen, Humble yourselves, sit down: for your principalities shall come down, even the crown of your glory.
(Mat 18:4) Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
(Mat 23:12) And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
(2Co 12:21) And lest, when I come again, my God will humble me among you, and that I shall bewail many which have sinned already, and have not repented of the uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness which they have committed.
(Jas 4:6) But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
(Jas 4:10) Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.
(1Pe 5:5) Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
(1Pe 5:6) Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
(Pro 15:33) The fear of the LORD is the instruction of wisdom; and before honour is humility.
(Pro 18:12) Before destruction the heart of man is haughty, and before honour is humility.
(Pro 22:4) By humility and the fear of the LORD are riches, and honour, and life.
(Act 20:19) Serving the Lord with all humility of mind, and with many tears, and temptations, which befell me by the lying in wait of the Jews:
(1Pe 5:5) Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
(Col 3:12) Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
Gary
PS
As I was reading through verses on “humble” this morning, this particular verse stood out to me:
(Psa 34:2) My soul shall make her boast in the LORD: the humble shall hear thereof, and be glad.
When I read this verse, it brought to mind John David’s testimony Wednesday night, and why it was so good. His boast was entirely in the Lord, and there were people on the other end who also had been humbled by the same Lord, and recognized the “sound” of it.
These are ingredients to a good testimony.
I wonder how Satan excused himself to lie to Eve, assuming he knew that God was watching him do it. I guess the serpent may not have been him, but Satan would have known God knew he was involved, at the least. He certainly wasn’t trying to get on God’s bad side. Could it have been another Job situation?
John David
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Yes, it could have been. Why would God have even put a forbidden tree there in the garden in the first place if He was not going to try Adam with it? At any rate, God had not lost any control; that much, we know.
The scene with Eve and the serpent in Genesis 4 may have been the result of an untold scene in heaven like the one found in 2Kings 17-22.
jdc
Dear Bro. John:
The Lord woke me this morning with just a few words: “the wells of Beer-sheba”. I remembered a Broadcaster you had written on The Manner of Beer-sheba (February 1994) and was led to pull from my collection and read it. It really blessed me. Nothing has changed – – men are still worshiping in places that God Himself has killed and moved out of.
The following excerpt from the original Broadcaster is so good to me, I wanted to share it. It is worded so simply, and is simple to us now, but it is only because God’s love and mercy has shown this truth to us.
God was in the high places once, but when He moved into the symbolic ceremonies of the temple worship in Jerusalem, it became idolatrous to worship in the high places. And now, worship in symbolic ceremonies is idolatrous, because Jesus suffered and died to provide for us “a new and living way” to serve God. He called it, “in spirit and in truth”. This change from old covenant symbols to real spiritual life is implicitly denied every time that one of Christianity’s symbolic ceremonies is carried out. Every time a symbolic communion service is observed, men are proclaiming again that a manner of worship which God has abandoned still lives; only this time the cry is not “Beer-sheba”, but “the manner of symbols liveth”. I know that Jesus was circumcised, baptized with water, and observed the holy days and ceremonies of the Law. But he did all that so that we would not have to do them! He not only died for us, he also lived for us. He was circumcised for us, baptized in water for us, kept all the ordinances for us. Now he is our passover, our High Priest, and our Baptizer. Jesus is Lord of all. Trusting Jesus means acknowledging that God has abandoned the use of religious symbols. To worship God as He demands now, rather than as He told others in another covenant to worship Him, is really what trusting Jesus means.” (The Broadcaster, Feb. 1994)
To know such riches as is written above is one thing, but to move when God says “move” is to believe them. The whole world is still crying: “the manner of symbols liveth.” But how sweet are the living words of Jesus: “Symbolism is not me!”
I thank Jesus for reminding me this morning ” . . . . that Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.”
And so am I!
Sandy 🙂
Hi John,
We really enjoyed hearing Chapter 6 tonight with the changes. It just gets better and better. We really appreciate Josiah sending us the link to Justin TV so we could see it. If you all read again and broadcast it, please text us.
I have a question about 2 Samuel 19:21-22 under the section Example #7 Satan and the Sons of Zeruiah. In verse 22 you wrote ..”that you should act like Satan on my behalf today”.
The conversation was in heaven between God and Satan about Job, the trial Zechariah saw about Josiah the high priest was in heaven, and Satan was working with God in heaven to provoke David to number Isreal without any of them knowing God and Satan were having those talks. So, how could David on earth know to use Satan as the example of adversaries in your translation of verse 22.
With what we know today, I think Satan was an excellant choice, but how would David have known to use Satan as a comparison for the sons of Zeruiah, the way you translated that verse?
Randell
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Good question, Brother Randell. Men knew the story of Job, by David’s time. But what we have in the Bible is just a tiny portion of what David and others knew, both from other lost stories and from prophets, besides their own contact with God. David had plenty to go on. He could have said that to Abishai just that way.
jdc
Pastor John,
In case I haven’t told you I am loving this Father and Son book. It is changing us! This morning I was praying God I just want to get over me and my flesh to able to do some good for people who don’t know what we have gotten to hear. Most of the things in our lives that we deal with is just our own flesh. We have got to get pasted that to really do so good. We talked about Job and how he was a perfect man (without God’s life) then where are we? I am not saying this in a discouraging way I feel like it is a call to move up. We are learning this for some reason even if it’s just to live a cleaner life. Well just wanted to thank you again.
Jammie
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Pastor John
After Wednesday night I’ve been thinking about Job as well, in particular this verse. “Wherefore I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes.” The question I have asked is repent of what? He had not done anything. He was just human and he saw or caught a glimpse of something so much greater – maybe the righteousness of God – and he could not (without the Spirit) humble himself far enough in response.
I have also been thinking about the various abilities to do things we all have. Doing anything is nothing. What is going on in the heart while you’re doing what you are doing? That is the question. The flesh loves making a “fair show” of itself. It makes me pull back and consider whatever I am doing and pray God that there is nothing of me in there.
These things are so good to consider but there is always goodness and severity to behold.
Damien
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Hi Damien.
What Job was feeling, neither he nor anyone else could see and understand until the Son of God came to reveal it to us. It was God’s kind of life. Job was already “a perfect and an upright man.” God said so. But what overwhelmed him in the end was a glimpse of a kind of life that is beyond perfection. God can rebuke even the most perfect man on earth because “the foolishness of God is wiser than man” and “the weakness of God is stronger than man.”
Oh no! I think I just said something that I want to add to the Father and Son book!
jdc
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Hi John,
I don’t know where to start, I have had so many new thoughts and feelings about what the Father did with his Son and what the Son did for us when he came down and secured a way for us here on earth. And all of it is because the Father wanted it to be so for us and his Son.
One thing that I really love about what God and his Son has done with us, through you with this Father and Son book, is how that when he reveals something to us about himself and the Son it redefines everything around us. It helps us to understand how he feels about everything and every being that was created.
It exposes the truth about everything. I am just thinking about how much light he has shown us about his Son and how much that was not known during the old testament times, on earth or in heaven. It gives a whole new meaning to the scripture in Mat 6:10 “Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.” (After the Son returned and was accepted of the Father of course.)
Wow. We are so blessed. The more we learn about the Father and the Son, the more it reveals about what is godly and what is evil, like Paul said:
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2Th 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.”
What we have learned about Satan and the spirit of Satan through what God has revealed to you with this Father and Son book is astonishing John. No books can attain to what has been opened up to you and us. No wonder this book keeps growing. His knowledge and wisdom is endless, and I thank you for coming and taking the time to teach us what he is showing you. What an honor it is to be living during this time in life and to gather together with such wonderful people as God has put us with. Thank you Jesus!
Stuart
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