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  • The Sons of God

    Daddy,

    I have a question about this verse:

    When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.” (ESV)

    What does this mean? Are “sons of God” here just a way of saying “people”?

    Bekah

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    Hey, Bekah!

    No, the phrase “sons of God” here, and in other places in Scripture, does not refer to humans but to heavenly beings. They are the “principalities and powers in high places” of which Paul spoke. Of course, when humans were admitted into the kingdom of God in the New Testament, we were granted the title, “sons of God”, too. But other than that, “sons of God” refers to heavenly beings who serve God.

    In the verse from Deuteronomy that you sent me, “sons of God” is a reference to the spiritual powers to whom God gave authority over various nations of earth and/or smaller dominions, such as territories within nations, and perhaps even smaller areas, such as towns. We catch a glimpse of these “spiritual powers in high places” in the book of Daniel (10:12-13), where an angel tells Daniel that “the prince of the kingdom of Persia” opposed his coming to Daniel, and actually delayed his arrival for three weeks! (By the way, a “principality” is the area controlled by a prince.) This “prince of Persia” was one of the “sons of God” by whose number God determined the size of the world and the number of the nations in it. It seems obvious to me, since that “prince of Persia” withstood God’s messenger (until Michael the archangel came to help him overcome that “prince”), that he was among the foolish angels who were deceived by Satan and were eventually cast out of God’s kingdom.

    The ancients were aware of the reality of spiritual powers in high places, but as with all other truth handed to them by Noah and others who preceded them, they perverted the truth and began to worship those powers as gods, inventing stories (myths) about the gods and the “heroes” to support their vain imagination.

    Thanks for the question. It was a good one.

    Daddy

  • All Nations

    John

    Randell and I have a question about these verses, from Revelation 18:

    18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

    Does “all nations” really mean all nations in those verse? If so, how how has Christianity deceived the people of Buddhist, Muslim and Hindu religions?

    Wendell and Randell

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    Hi, brothers!

    Satan has deceived all nations just as he has deceived most of God’s own people by persuading them all to believe that if one believes in Christ Jesus, then he is a part of the religion of Christianity and should join one of Christianity’s churches. Satan’s most successful lie, to this point, believed by us all at one time or another, is that Christianity is the body of Christ and that it represents Christ to the nations of earth.

    jdc

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    Pastor John:
    Good Morning,

    Sorry, I failed to get the point I was wondering about across in my question. I was thinking of Muslim nations whose government denounce Christianity? How does this fit into all Nations? Does all Nations mean all Nations? In my thinking it can’t if Christianity is Babylon and a government of the country denounces Christianity, how can that government be part of all Nations? Should I be thinking earthly government?

    Brother Wendell

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    I understood your question, I think. Maybe I didn’t make my answer clear enough.

    Even when earthly governments despise and condemn Christianity, they all believe that everyone belongs to Christianity who believes Jesus is the Son of God and the Savior of the world. Therefore, Satan has deceived even them. Thinking that is the lie. It makes no difference about religion. It is not a matter of whether it is spiritual or natural, whether a religious “nation” or a worldly nation. If they think that all who believe in Jesus are part of the religion of Christianity, Satan has deceived them. And the whole world does believe that lie, until Jesus sets them free as he has done us. Sop, yes, “all nations” means “all nations”.

    Hope that helps.

    jdc

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    John,

    I had always been narrow minded when looking at Satan’s deception or lie about Christianity representing what Christ came here and suffered and died for. I had always looked at God’s people in Christianity as the ones being deceived. Your reply opened the door for me to see how the whole world is deceived. All a person has to do is say they believe in Jesus and the whole world regardless of their beliefs, religious or not automatically associates you as being a Christian and a part of the religion of Christianity. That is something to stand back and see what a masterful job Satan has done of planting this seed.

    Thank you for this eye opener,

    Randell

  • Old Meeting CDs

    Hi John,

    I have been listening to the Old Meeting CDs that brother Earl sent in the mail. They are wonderful! I have listened to CD-153 several times now, the one with your father preaching in Louisville in 1974. I love the feelings I get from listening to your father preach. I love the confidence I felt from him and the love of God that comes with it as he is telling the truth that God gave him.

    There is such peace and rest that is conveyed through his preaching that it just melts your heart and touches your soul. I love it, John. I feel the same way when I hear you preach and teach. It just settles the spirit and brings peace and rest for our souls. At one point in the 1974 meeting, your father was talking about people being filled with the Blessing and yet after being born, not having any good food to eat because they have no one to feed them the truth. I could tell in you fathers voice and in his walk with the Lord that he had seen that, over and over again, many time.

    John, I can see how important it was and is to have a place where you can be fed the word of God and not all the junk that Christianity has to offer. What your father labored for was a place where people who felt the call of God on their life could come and find rest and live a sin-free, holy life, and could work to help all of the brethren who wanted the same thing, a place of rest and love in the real worship of God in his spirit.

    John, I know no other place I would rather be then where I am right now, with you and all the wonderful saints Jesus has put around us, people who love the truth. Your father started a work, through God’s help, which has helped thousands of Gods people all over this world to know who they are in Christ. Thank you, John, for following in your father’s footsteps and continuing to bless so many of God’s people all over the world. I know it is God that has led you, but you had to yield to the calling, and love it, and put it to work, and provide a place for people to come and learn about the God they love and want to know.

    Thanks
    Stuart

  • Hello from Raad

    Hi Pastor John,

    I have just found out about the truth from knowing Jenny. I’ve been looking for it for the past 15 years. I was brought up in a Catholic church, but by the age of 26 I realised the Catholic church is not the truth of God. So, I started searching somewhere else for the truth. I was then taught the “get saved” doctrine. Straight away, I thought “oh, this is too good to be true”. Then a friend of mine was attending an “Assemblies of God” church. He told me you are not born again until you are baptised by the holy ghost, and you speak in tongues. So for about a year and 2 months, I prayed and fasted to God for that to happen. One day I was laying in my room and I felt the holy ghost come over me in power from top to bottom, and I started to speak in tongues. I was really very excited about what had happened, but I just didn’t know where God was working. I started attending the Worldwide Church of God and their teaching was that Christianity was not the truth. I quite liked what they were teaching because I could see there was a lot of truth in what they said. But they did not believe in the baptism of the holy ghost, and speaking tongues. Altogether, I wasn’t fully convinced they were teaching the full truth of God. After some time I just left the church and I started looking for the truth and praying about it. Then I began attending the Anglican church for a while but I well knew that was not the truth – I only attended because of my ex-wife. After that I didn’t attend any more churches – I was just praying for God to lead me to the truth. Then a year and half later, after working with Jenny for 6 months – in the last week or so of my work there – we began talking about religion, which we’d never talked about before. She started telling me about your teaching. I was completely blown away by it! I asked her for some more material, which she gave me. By reading the first tract, I knew straight this is where God is working – this is the truth! Since then I’ve been listening to all the CD’s, and reading tracts, blogs, and the TFT’s, and watching Livestream.

    Livestream is just amazing! You can tell you have been led by Jesus Christ because you don’t know what is going to happen next. There is no routine or format, and it’s very exciting.

    I was really dying spiritually; maybe I was on my last breath, until God led me to talk to Jenny. I feel like I’m floating on clouds since God did all this. I’ve never been so happy! I’m so happy to be taught good spiritual food.

    I have many questions but so far I’ve been getting answers from all the CD’s I’ve heard. I hope it would be okay if I have questions I can’t find answers too if I could ask you.

    I’d like to come and visit in the future, if it would be okay with you.

    Thank you very much for sticking to the truth, and I’m also thankful for your father for not wavering from the truth before he passed.

    May God bless you and your family.

    Raad M.

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    Greetings, Brother Raad!

    Yours is a wonderful testimony that the world (including Christianity) did not give you and that the world (including Christianity) can never take away. You should be very thankful for that. I thank you for sending it.

    Please feel free to write with any questions you might have, and if you ever can do so, we here would all love to have you visit us so that we can hear your testimony in person!

    Pastor John

  • Gary – Things that are Priceless

    Hi John,

    Hey, you missed it after you left! Song and I had the best time while getting my hair cut.

    We started talking about money, and how some things in life are priceless to us, and they are worth all the money we have ever given, or ever WILL give. We got very HAPPY!

    In fact, if we measure up our tithes and offerings compared to what you have given or done for our lives, well, by far we have gotten the better end of the bargain.

    Here are some of the things we thought were “priceless”:

    – The people we are surrounded by who love truth.
    – The things we have heard and learned from you.
    – The love we have received from you, and others joined with you.
    – Being able to feel and watch the anointing of God, the one that breaks yokes.
    – Feeling God’s presence.
    – Watching God’s power.
    – Watching and feeling you love the children (that was Song’s of course!)
    – The feelings of the Spirit (learning to know them).
    – Advice and help in time of need, that has changed our lives.
    – The gatherings of the saints.
    – Having the same feelings as others in the Lord.
    – Song and I dancing in the Spirit together.

    I am sure there are hundreds more of “priceless” treasures that have come to us through you and your work. woo hoo!!

    It is an honor for us to have you take our tithes and offerings John. Some things are priceless.

    Gary

  • 1 Peter and Baptism

    John,

    I have a couple questions/comments about some recent Bible study:

    In 1Peter 3:20, it (KJV) says, “…Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.” I understand that, in the next verse, “the like figure” is referring to the ark. But why does the KJV say “by water” instead of “through water” or “through the water” like other translations do? “By water” makes it sound like it was the water that saved them, and then the “like figure” would be referring to water baptism.

    I bring this up because in the last few days’ TFT’s, I’ve noticed the series on errors in the KJV. Would this also be an intentional mistranslation in the KJV, to make it seem as though water baptism is the baptism we need (or at least that we need water baptism in addition to, or in order to receive, Spirit baptism)?

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    Some may be shocked at your question, Vince, but it is not unreasonable for you to wonder if the KJV translators were carefully manipulating a verse to promote their Christian baptism. The same translators imposed the word “Easter” into the book of Acts to promote their holy day agenda, and they butchered the translation of Philippians 2:6 in order to promote their Trinitarian doctrine. Such intentional bending of the scriptures may be the case here, as well, but it is less obvious if that is the case. The truth, as you say, is that the ark, not the water, saved Noah and his family, and Peter’s words make that abundantly clear. A good translation would be “and they were rescued through the water”. Why anyone would not translate the verse that way would be difficult to say.

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    Also, when I read verse 21, I was curious to learn what Christian commentaries said. It seems obvious to me that this verse is simply a clarification by Peter that water baptism is NOT the baptism that matters. It seems that this verse is used by some Christians to show that Spirit baptism happens concurrently with water baptism. The RSV translation is the one that seemed to be referred to often, but this translation appears to have it backwards:

    RSV: “Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.”

    KJV: “The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.”

    Am I reading this difference correctly? RSV is saying that baptism is an appeal to God for a clear conscience. KJV [correctly] says that baptism is the answer from God in response to our clear conscience [repentance].

    Thank you,

    Vince

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    Yes, you are sensing the RSV translators’ attempt to endorse the only baptism which those translators know: the baptism in water known as Christian baptism. That was not what Peter wrote. The KJV translators had this one right.

    jdc

  • Has Anyone Ever Received the Holy Ghost and NOT Gone Into Christianity?

    John,

    I was thinking yesterday and today about this: has anyone ever received the holy Ghost and NOT gone into or ended up in Christianity, in some form? (unless of course, they were conceived in a place like where we are, where God’s simple truth is taught).

    It’s an astonishing accomplishment by Satan, when we think of the multitudes that have received Jesus’ holy Spirit baptism, but all of us end up in that religion, in one form or another – not even understanding why we really go there. Why do God’s people turn to it? It’s such a “force” in this life….

    Makes one realize how complete Satan’s deception really is: “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world“. And to think that God has done it, and made the truth about it invisible — to most. But we are free! That’s worth praising GOD for, as you were saying Wednesday night.

    One day, it will be seen.

    Gary

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    Hi Gary.

    Yes, God was right. The whole world. Even non-Christians think that everyone on earth who wants to serve Jesus must join that thing called Christianity. What a blessing, that God has un-deceived us! Praise His holy name!

    jdc

  • His Footstool

    http://goingtojesus.com/site/php/books.php?tname=light:1

    Dad,

    As I was asking last night, if it is strictly the case that Jesus won’t return until his enemies are made his footstool, then what do the3se verses mean? Here’s the secton of your book, Spiritual Light, to which I was referring. I’ve bolded a part.

    ONE ASCENSION, NO RETURN

    The book of Hebrews adds this instructive note to our study:

    “But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God, from henceforth [waiting] till his enemies be made his footstool.” (Heb. 10:12-13)

    The fact that Jesus sat down at God’s right hand after offering himself as our atoning sacrifice is important, for it means (1) that he did not (as many teach) return to earth after he offered himself to God, and (2) that he will not return to earth “until his enemies be made his footstool.” Of course, in Spirit, both Jesus and the Father returned at Pentecost (Jn. 14:16, 20, 23). But as for Jesus’ personal presence, let it suffice to remind the reader that we are looking for his second coming, not his third or fourth. After his first visit, he sat down.

    John D.

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    Thanks for the question. It’s a good one.

    If you pay close attention, in the Bible, especially in the prophets, you will notice places where God speaks as if something is done before it happens. He might say, “I have ended your kingdom!”, in spite of the fact that, up to that moment, the kingdom is doing fine. I think that is what is going on here. Jesus will remain at the Father’s right hand until the Father says, “OK. I have made your enemies your foot stool.” And then He will send the Son to earth to conquer and to reign.

    jdc

  • Seven Wicked Spirits

    John,

    I was sitting here, after the meeting, thinking about how good God has been good to me. I thought about what I said tonight – how I was in Christianity, and came to the place of sitting at home and I said, “God there has to be more than this, someone has to have truth.” God had an answer to my heart’s cry.

    And I thought about what you said tonight – how that all of us have said at one time, “God there has to be more to life than this” and God rescued us – calling us unto Himself and giving us His Spirit.

    I thought about how I had that same cry twice. The first time, I considered that there had to be more to life than what I had – that life of sin. And God gave me the holy Ghost. And I thought about how I was converted, but stuck in Christianity, and said again, “God, there has to be more than THIS.” (the religion I was in).

    After I had that thought, the Spirit said to me, “if you didn’t, you’d be like the man with seven spirits”. I remembered that story, and looked it up in Matthew and Luke:

    Mat 12:43: When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
    Mat 12:44: Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
    Mat 12:45: Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

    Luk 11:24: When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
    Luk 11:25: And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
    Luk 11:26: Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.”

    When the unclean spirit goes out of us (when we get the holy Ghost), later there are other spirits that come back with it, and find us all fixed up – but the ones that return are more wicked. The come in and dwell in the clean temple of God. And if we are stuck in Christianity, really, that state IS worse than the first. It’s a blessing to get that “second cry” for something more.

    I’m not sure that is the exact context of Jesus’ story in total, but if you look at it that way, it is the case.

    Gary

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    From what I have seen, Gary, that children of God who receive the holy ghost and then turn from the path of true holiness to devote themselves to the religious system called Christianity are, it seems, taken over by “seven spirits” worse than the spirits that work among unconverted sinners. Their devotion to that religious system certainly makes it far more difficult for Jesus to reach them than it was when they were just living as sinners in the world.

    jdc

  • Jacob C.

    Pastor John,

    I just had to write to tell on God!! I am going to try to keep this short. A few months ago some folks here decided to do the OT class. Well, Paul and I thought it would be good for Jacob. And boy it has!! Sunday, Paul wasn’t feeling well, so I took Jacob. It was so sweet to see him. I know there are some things in the OT class that he doesn’t understand, but it was very sweet to watch him. It was never a thought in his mind to stay home. He just wanted to know who was going to take him.

    Well, today after school I sent him in the grocery to grab a few things. A little while later this little old man on oxygen came out of the store. He was walking very slow across the street. A young lady was waiting for him to cross but you could tell by her body language she wanted him to move faster. I thought to myself, “God, I hope Jacob would be more compassionate.” About that time, Jacob came out of the store. The first thing he did was walk over to car window. He said, Mama, I hope you don’t mind, but there was an old man in there on oxygen. And he didn’t have enough money, so I gave him my three dollars. He gave me my change back.”

    I just sat there thinking about what I just said to God! Jacob said the woman checking them out told him that was a very kind thing to do! As I was driving home I had this thought: “They are who they really are, when you’re not around.” And we are who we really are when you [Pastor John] are not around!! I just had to tell on God and Jacob.

    Jammie.

    P.S. The money Jacob gave that man was his own!!

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    Beautiful stories, Jammie. Thanks for sending that to me!

    jdc

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