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  • Discernment

    Hey Pastor John!

    I just wanted to write a few thoughts and things that have happened to me this week.
     
    After Saturday night Revelation class I started praying for True Discernment from God.  I thought “without discernment, and everything is just my opinion, and I am going to be wrong and not handle a situation right, every time.  I want to see things the way they are and still have the Love of God!”

    This week I heard the spirit say “True Discernment is also knowing yourself.  it’s not walking around pretending you feel something or are something because then you are already believing a lie and can’t see or admit the truth.”

    Monday I had to go get some medicine at the pharmacy.  The girl at the window was so rude, and I felt so bad and tired.  As I was sitting at the window waiting for the medicine, it hit me, “No, I am not picking that spirit up from her.  I am here for medicine only.  That spirit doesn’t belong to me.”  And when I drove off, I didn’t even feel anything in me at all toward her.  I felt like I needed to just get home and take care of what did belong to me.  I got further down the road and heard, “NOW YOUR GETTING IT”  Wow!

    This has been a sweet week for me because I could feel Jesus with me helping me all the way! 

    Sorry didn’t mean to be so long.  I just had to tell on Jesus . I love you all very much.

    Jammie

  • Humility or Pride

    http://goingtojesus.com/site/php/thoughts.php?tname=tfe01-10

     

    Bro. John:Today, I read a wonderful TFE, “True Humility” (1-10) from Thoughts for the Evening 2005.  What I loved about it when I finished reading was the simplicity that was there in the explanation of what true humility is – “humility is demonstrated by doing the will of God instead of doing your own will.”

    At the end of reading this, I thought of how simple Jesus is.  If “humility” is demonstrated by doing the will of God instead of doing your own will, then “pride” is the opposite – pride is demonstrated by not doing the will of God, but instead, doing your own will.

    There is no need to consult Webster’s for a definition of humility or pride.  Just look to see who is doing the will of God and who is not.  That is just so good and so simple!

    To be like Jesus is to stay humble by always choosing to do the will of the Father.  Sometimes that means to be “meek and lowly”, and sometimes that means to “rule with a rod of iron.”

    What is humility?  Doing the will of God.
    What is pride?  Not doing the will of God.

    Thank you for these simple truths that refresh the soul!

    Sandy  🙂

     

  • SIT Book Comment

    http://www.goingtojesus.com/tongues-at-spirit-baptism.html

     

    Dear Vince,

    I really enjoyed [Pastor John’s book, Speaking in Tongues at Spirit Baptism]; however it did raise a question.  It would seem that if one doesn’t speak in tongues (by the power of the Holy Spirit) he really isn’t saved.  Is that what you are saying?  If that’s the case, I’m in big trouble because I’m sorry to say that I still have not spoken in tongues–but I haven’t given up. If you care to elaborate on that, feel free to contact me again.

    Thank you and God bless.
    Marilyn

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    Thank you for writing.  I’m very glad to hear back from you.

    First I want to clear up the issue of salvation.  No one, whether they have God’s Spirit or not, is saved until Jesus returns.  Salvation is a future hope for faithful children of God.  Remember Jesus said, “He that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved.” (Mat. 24:13)  And in Romans 8:24-25, Paul talks about the “hope” of being saved.  Throughout the Scriptures, salvation from the coming wrath of God is spoken of as a future event.  It is possible, and happens quite often, for a Spirit-baptized child of God to turn from the faith, return to sin and be damned in the end.  So just because a person receives the holy Ghost baptism does not mean they are automatically saved.

    So now to answer your question about the necessity of speaking in tongues.  The holy Ghost baptism is most certainly necessary in order to be saved in the end and be with our heavenly Father.  Paul said in Romans 8:9, “Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.”  In other words, without the Spirit of God dwelling in a person, that person does not belong to God.  The next question is, how does a person know when they have received the baptism of the holy Ghost?  As pastor John’s book explains in more detail, every time a person receives the holy Ghost, they are moved by the Spirit to speak in a language that is unknown to them.  This can come out as a very clear, heavenly language, or it can simply be “stammering lips” (as Isaiah called it in Isaiah 28:11).  In any case, it is the Spirit that causes a person to speak in tongues, it is not something you learn to do.

    Please do not be discouraged by these things, Marilyn, because like I mentioned in my previous email, if you have a desire for the baptism of the holy Ghost, God already wanted you to have it before you even knew about it.  It is impossible for a person to desire the things of God without God first putting that desire in their heart to receive them.  So no, you are not in big trouble just because you haven’t received the Spirit and begun to speak in tongues yet.  God knows exactly what you need, and He will show you what you need to do to repent and obey.  Go with your feelings, and when you have sought God with your whole heart, you will receive the Spirit.  It may also encourage you to read about how others received the holy Ghost.  Go to:

    http://www.isaiah58.com/holyghostbaptism.html

    Also, I would recommend listening to pastor John’s audio teaching series called “What Must I Do to be Saved?”  It is on the GoingtoJesus.com web site under “Audio Teaching”.  

    Sorry this was a bit of a long response, but I hope this helps.  If you have any other questions or thoughts, please do not hesitate to contact me.  I will be praying for you.  Have a great day!

    With love in Christ,
    Vince

  • A Poem I Found

    Pastor John

    I thought I would share this poem I found in the 2010 calandar I bought for work. The feelings are very sweet  … God has been showing me lately how much he cares about me as well as the rest of his children. Last saturday night was so sweet to me, I felt like God was serenading us with all of the songs different ones were singing. I love my Jesus – he is so good to me (us). :0)

    Just think,
    You’re here not by chance,
    but by God’s choosing.
    His hand formed you
    and made you the person you are.
    He compares you to no one else- you are one of a kind.
    You lack nothing that His grace can’t give you.
    He has allowed you to be here
    at this time in history to fufill His special purpose for this generation.

    B.

  • Healing

     

    Dear Bro. John:

    I want to share something that the Lord taught me this past Thursday while listening to the Old Meeting CD in your office.  We can pray according to how we think we should but in our ignorance still be praying the wrong way until God sheds His light.  And He always does it in such a loving way that it makes the heart glad to bow to him.

    We were listening to the CD and coming to the end where your father was praying for others.  We all began to pray, too, and I was praying for those who I knew were sick and needed a touch from the Lord.  As I started to pray for the pain you have been having in your shoulders, I first was praying in the Spirit and then began to pray in English, “Lord, heal his shoulders.”  As soon as I said “his” shoulders, the Spirit corrected me and interpreted what I had just prayed in tongues and said, “MY shoulders”.  It felt so good and so right that I then prayed, “Yes, Lord, heal your shoulders of your servant so that he may do your work”.  What a settled peace came with that prayer!

    It was so good that when I shared it with you tonight after the meeting, you mentioned a certain scripture and I looked up when I came home.  It is in Matthew 8:17:

    “That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.”

    Matthew referenced Isaiah 53: 4-5

    “Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.”
    “But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.”

    Then I remembered a scripture that also says how the Spirit helps us because we don’t know what we should pray for.  It is in Romans 8:26:

    “Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.”

    After the Lord corrected my prayer, his words humbled me so, that it makes it seem prideful to even take credit that this body and these illnesses belong to us.  As the Lord told me years ago:  “You can’t give credit or take credit – – all the credit is mine!”  He is the Creator and we are the Creations.  So, maybe the prayer to pray for healing is not, “Lord, please heal my back” or “please heal my stomach”, but “Lord, please heal YOUR back” or “please heal YOUR stomach, so that YOUR servant may do YOUR work!”

    Jesus has healed us many times when our words may not have been completely correct, but that is because he is good and he knows that we need him for everything.  His tender love constantly reminds us who we are and who he is.  I love Hebrews 2: 9-10:

    “But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
    For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.”

    Sandy

  • Speaking in Tongues Response for Web

    http://www.goingtojesus.com/tongues-at-spirit-baptism.html

     

    Comment: I have been a Christian for many years now and although I have prayed (as well as being prayed over by others) to receive the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues I have yet to speak/pray in tongues. I want to learn as much as I can about this and hopefully will receive it someday.  Thank you and God bless you.

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    Hello Marilyn,

    Thank you for requesting the book, Speaking in Tongues at Spirit Baptism, from our web site recently.  I am part of the work that distributes this book and other Gospel materials to those who are hungering & thirsting for God.

    Was the information helpful to you?  When you ordered the book, you said you have been praying to receive the holy Spirit, with the evidence of speaking in tongues.  You are in a wonderful position, Marilyn, because if you even have a desire to receive God’s gift of the Spirit, then He wants you to have it.  We can only want God because He first wants us.  So be encouraged – seek for this experience with all your heart, and you will receive.  God said, through Isaiah, “Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth?…shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb?”  (Isaiah 66:9)

    Please feel free to write me if you have any questions or comments.  God bless you, and let me know when it happens to you!

    Your servant in Christ Jesus,
    Vince

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    Dear Vince,
    Thank you for your kind email.  I really enjoyed the book, however it did raise a question.  It would seem that if one doesn’t speak in tongues (by the power of the Holy Spirit) he really isn’t saved.  Is that what you are saying?  If that’s the case, I’m in big trouble because I’m sorry to say that I still have not spoken in tongues–but I haven’t given up. If you care to elaborate on that, feel free to contact me again.
    Thank you and God bless.
    Marilyn

    =================

    Thank you for writing.  I’m very glad to hear back from you.

    First I want to clear up the issue of salvation.  No one, whether they have God’s Spirit or not, is saved until Jesus returns.  Salvation is a future hope for faithful children of God.  Remember Jesus said, “He that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved.” (Mat. 24:13)  And in Romans 8:24-25, Paul talks about the “hope” of being saved.  Throughout the Scriptures, salvation from the coming wrath of God is spoken of as a future event.  It is possible, and happens quite often, for a Spirit-baptized child of God to turn from the faith, return to sin and be damned in the end.  So just because a person receives the holy Ghost baptism does not mean they are automatically saved.

    So now to answer your question about the necessity of speaking in tongues.  The holy Ghost baptism is most certainly necessary in order to be saved in the end and be with our heavenly Father.  Paul said in Romans 8:9, “Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.”  In other words, without the Spirit of God dwelling in a person, that person does not belong to God.  The next question is, how does a person know when they have received the baptism of the holy Ghost?  As pastor John’s book explains in more detail, every time a person receives the holy Ghost, they are moved by the Spirit to speak in a language that is unknown to them.  This can come out as a very clear, heavenly language, or it can simply be “stammering lips” (as Isaiah called it in Isaiah 28:11).  In any case, it is the Spirit that causes a person to speak in tongues, it is not something you learn to do.

    Please do not be discouraged by these things, Marilyn, because like I mentioned in my previous email, if you have a desire for the baptism of the holy Ghost, God already wanted you to have it before you even knew about it.  It is impossible for a person to desire the things of God without God first putting that desire in their heart to receive them.  So no, you are not in big trouble just because you haven’t received the Spirit and begun to speak in tongues yet.  God knows exactly what you need, and He will show you what you need to do to repent and obey.  Go with your feelings, and when you have sought God with your whole heart, you will receive the Spirit.  It may also encourage you to read about how others received the holy Ghost.  Go to:

    http://www.isaiah58.com/holyghostbaptism.html

     Also, I would recommend listening to pastor John’s audio teaching series called “What Must I Do to be Saved?”  It is on the GoingtoJesus.com web site under “Audio Teaching”.  

    Sorry this was a bit of a long response, but I hope this helps.  If you have any other questions or thoughts, please do not hesitate to contact me.  I will be praying for you.  Have a great day!

    With love in Christ,
    Vince

  • Baptism

    http://www.isaiah58.com/holyghostbaptism.html

    Pastor John,

    I was reading your book on Speaking in tongues at Spirit Baptism ( http://www.goingtojesus.com/tongues-at-spirit-baptism.html ). It lead me to your web site.  (The book was great)

    I have read over some of the comments and information on your site . I would like to continue to read and study your info as the Holy Ghost leads me, but a question.  Do you believe that all your findings is Law or absolute??  I was reading the water baptism articles, it seems it seems to be a bit confusing.  Water doesn’t save, but in Romans 6:3-4, it talk about us being buried into his death and rising in the newness of life.  Wouldn’t water baptism be symbolic to as in Romans 6:3-4.  If not where can I find it meaning something different??

    I have a few more question I will send later keep up the good work . God bless you

    Pastor G. Moore
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    Dear friend, greetings in Jesus’ precious name!

    Thank you for writing.  I look forward to hearing from you again with your other questions.

    The baptism to which Paul is referring in Romans 6 is not a water baptism.  It is the baptism of the Spirit.  This is true also of 1Corinthians 12:13, Ephesians 4:5, Colossians 2:12, Galatians 3:27, and 1Peter 3:21.  No form of water baptism can bring us into fellowship with the death of Christ, or raise us up to new life, bury us with him, or put us into the body of saints, or give us “the answer of a clear conscience toward God”.

    I do hope that this helps clarify what I am teaching.  Please, let’s continue this dialogue.

    Your servant in Christ,
    Pastor John

  • web question – How do you baptize?

     

    comments: How do you baptize?  Do you believe Acts 2:38?

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    Greetings in the wonderful name of Jesus, Nadine!

    Oh yes, I believe in Acts 2:38 with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength!!

    Of course, I also believe the other Scriptures about baptism with all my heart, mind, soul, and strength.

    You can learn much truth about baptism for us Gentiles by reading my brief message “Baptism at http://www.goingtojesus.com/site/php/baptism.html

    May God bless you and the saint who are there with you.  We here love you all.

    Pastor John

  • George Clark CD

    Hi John,

    I wanted to praise the Lord for yesterday’s Old Meeting CD, from the year 1975.

    At the end of that CD, when your father was talking about healing, I heard him tell the people to run up to him.  The power of God was so strong that I could not shout, raise my hands, or anything.  There was such mercy, such instruction, and such love and power that I was feeling, that all I could do was cry.

    When he was talking about how you treat the “least of these”, I realized (again), that I have fallen short in this area, both at home and  abroad.  It’s not like I have never heard that – but yesterday, it  was so strong.  It’s a lesson God keeps sticking with for me – I am  thankful for His patience.  I really felt God’s touch there in your  office.  It felt like something special touched me there.  It did go deep.

    After the CD was over, Amy told me that all she could do was cry when the anointing was so strong… that was doubly encouraging.  It was exactly how I was feeling.  And afterward, when you talked about the body of Christ in a new sense – as offering our body (our body together as a group) up as a living sacrifice…. whew.  It had the same anointing in it that I felt listening to the CD.  And when you went over and prayed for Doris — again, the same strong anointing. How I love that feeling!  It is life!

    That was a CD I shall not forget.  Oh, that God’s people — we — would be healed, and moved by the Spirit in all things.

    Gary

  • Lakeland Revival

    Pastor John

    I was watching some videos on the lakeland revival down in florida….have you heard of it?…if so..what is your opinion on it…alot of people say its not of God

    Brandon
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    Hi Brandon.

    I have just heard much about it, but this I know.  If the Lakeland revival it IS of God, there will be a lot of people who say it is not.

    Pastor John

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