Pastor John,

I loved the reading last night!  Afterwards I reread through chapter one.  There is so much just in the first 12 pages!  In that one chapter we get to see the relationship and the love the Father and Son have for each other, and that they want God’s children to have.  The truth in those pages completely eliminates the Trinity and Oneness doctrines.  It is simple and loving, and all I keep thinking is, “Thank you, Jesus, that you let me know this, and to love this.”

I am so excited and looking forward to reading the rest of The Father and Son book!

Michelle

(Pastor John’s book, The Father and the Son, is currently under revision. The original version may be found at the link below.) 

https://goingtojesus.com/gtj_books.html?tname=fands 

 

Pastor John,

Beth and I were talking yesterday about what it means to save our children from the spirits of this world – especially since two of her children are now raising young ones of their own!

We noted that kids are just vessels (as we are) and they are either serving as home for the holy Ghost, or some other spirit(s) out there that is NOT Jesus.

I was reminded yesterday that we cannot force a wrong spirit out of our children, they have to do it.  Even the youngest of children can hold on to a wrong spirit if they want to. Lying, stealing, immorality, whatever it is – they have to make it leave.  The best we can do without Jesus intervening with his power, is to make our children so uncomfortable for holding on to that wrong spirit, that they won’t let it work through them anymore.  They have to want it gone because it costs them too much to let it continue. 

And that consistency on our part is loving our children.  Letting them get by is turning them over to death.

I hope I said that right. I believe the feeling is right.

Thank you.

Jerry

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Yes, Jerry, that is how it is.  May God help parents realize that their children need help to overcome the spirits of this age because those spirits hook up with children if the parents settle for it.  It’s human nature, and children need to be shown the way to the nature of Christ, which is in the Spirit of God.

Solomon highly recommended that parents make it uncomfortable for their children to allow wrong spirits to work through them and use them.  Here are some of the things he said:

Proverbs 13:24. He who spares his rod hates his son, but he who loves him chastens him early.

Proverbs 19:18. Chasten your son while there is hope!  Do not spare yourself and cause him to die.

It takes strength and wisdom from God to be a good parent.  But if we deny ourselves and our own preferences and do things His way, it will help our children tremendously.

Pastor John

Hey!

Something else I’ve been thinking about in regards to the Montanus reading, and really nailing it down that Jesus was never a part of Christianity, is that I can no longer nod in agreement when Christians complain that the church is corrupt.  I cannot even agree with that.  This, to me, suggests that it was once pure, and has been adulterated, which is just not true.

Anna

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Hi there.

When the Bible says that Satan has “deceived the whole world”, that is what it is talking about.  The lie of all lies is the Christianity started with Jesus and the apostles.  It did not.  It started with Constantine, and was filthy in God’s sight from the day it started in AD 325.  If God’s children could see that, and realize that Christianity is not the body of Christ and that God is calling for them to come out, there would be an exodus out of that religion which would make Moses jealous.

I am glad you see it, Anna.  It is wonderful that God has given you ears to hear.

Pastor John

Good morning, Pastor John.

I keep thinking back to the reading of the last chapter of Montanus. Something you said summed it all up for me, felt so good, and is as simple as it gets. I am not phrasing it just as you did, but it was something like, the only true religion is what existed before the world began between the Father and His Son. They were daily laughing in each others’ presence, sharing the holy Spirit. We now have that spirit, too. What they had (have) together is the only religion that is true, the only one you need. It takes out the fluff, the disagreements. It’s just pure and simple. I love that.

Anna

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Amen, Anna!

Those who are living in the Spirit are in the oldest religion that exists, and the only eternally true one.  I am very happy and thankful to know that and to be satisfied with it, adding none of the religious trappings that men have invented.  “If the Son of man makes you free, you are free indeed!”

Pastor John

Wow!
What a summary of who Montanus was and why he had such an effect on those who wanted to be religious but had rebelled against Christ.

Every human being’s flesh hates what comes from Jesus, because the flesh must die for Christ to live in men.

Men of God, then, and now, make it clear, “It is the Spirit of God, or nothing at all.”

There is no compromising and no other paths or ways for serving Christ, because every religion (in Jesus’s name) that springs from the heart of men and not God, hates the Jesus they declare to be serving.

Whew!
Love it.
Thank you-
Jerry

Wow!  Just the name of Chapter 5 had me on the edge of my seat.

Chapter 5: Cursedianity

I had to stop myself from reading ahead and pouring through this.  It is perfect!

On Feb 26th, I wrote down a thought that followed what I heard when we read Chapter 3 together, and during that reading I asked Jesus how His people got to this place of accepting and wanting to follow a man known for his ability to quench the spirit and keep his wits about him and losing the wonderful power of God.  And Jesus answered and said we get what we settle for.

After that thought, I was lying in bed talking to Jesus and heard the thought:

“If Christianity is really God’s curse for settling for something other than His Son, then isn’t Christianity God’s deadliest plague and His greatest curse?”

I lay there dumbfounded and scared to really hear that thought but saying “Amen!” at the same time!

As I read this tonight, my soul said “Amen!”  from name of Chapter 5 on! If I tried to find something wrong with it, I couldn’t because I can’t get past the Amen that I feel!

And I have never felt Rev. 18:4 more!

“They echo the plea of the Father to His children to come away from the straw man so that God can set it on fire: “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues!” (Rev. 18:4)

And when you added⁷ the part and the feelings of witnessing how those hearts really feel about Sister Seaver and really felt about Jesus, it let me FEEL why that is so awful.

I love how this feels. I love the Amen I FEEL inside!

“Christianity’s very name is a lie. It has nothing to do with Christ. Paul said that anyone on earth or from heaven who dared teach a gospel different from his was cursed. I believe that. And based on that truth, the rightful name of Christianity is not Christianity, but Cursedianity. That sounds a little odd, but Jesus, and both Montanus and Paul, would say amen.”

Jesus put this inside of me. I know it’s right. That is amazing to me!

Beth D.

Dear Pastor John,

Thankfully I was able to follow the Sunday morning meeting live this time, and there was a testimony that reminded me of something that happened to me 2 years ago. 

Damien mentioned that God one time asked him: “What would you do if I told you, you’re gonna be damned, no matter what you do for the rest of your life?”  I think Damien’s answer was something like “I would still try to live right just in case there was a crack in the doorway”.

Well, throughout my life of faith there were a number of times when I was tempted by a spirit (one that felt very strong and powerful at the time) that told me that my faith and my love for God is a lie, my repentance has always been a lie, that I was heading to sure damnation. 

The first time it happened was in 2006, after I left the Bible College for the first time because I felt there was a lack of sincerity about their doctrine on the baptism of the holy Ghost.  I think it only took a couple of days after I left the campus and moved back home that this feeling of complete hopelessness, gloom and an utter lack of right feelings (such as love, joy, peace) took over me, and I instantly believed that that was God revealing the truth to me about myself.  I thought it was all over for me.  What I did not understand then, but I do understand now, is that some of my thoughts and feelings at the time were true, namely, that I, indeed, had not been born again yet, I didn’t have the Spirit of God inside of me.  God was being merciful to me by letting me sense that something was missing from my life.  But (and this is a wonderful truth that you mentioned yesterday, Pastor John, that means so much to me for a number of reasons), even though I didn’t have the Spirit at the time, my name had already been written in the Lamb’s book of life from the foundation of the world, and so, I was already a child of God, I had already been conceived and was being formed in the womb, and it was only a matter of time for me to come around and become the new creation I was always meant to be.

This period took more than 5 years, at the end of which (after the Christmans of 2011, in Germany, in the house of my sister’s family) I experienced true repentance for the first time in my life, and a few days later, while alone in my room back in Hungary, I received the baptism of the holy Ghost. 

The second time I was tempted by this same spirit, and I gave into it, was when I was visiting with you all in Graham.  I remember I even told a number of you, while we were sitting around in your house, that I feel like I am not a believer.  Again, I got convinced that the good things God had done in my life up until that point were all a big lie, and now my real self was unveiled.  Once again, some of what I thought and felt at the time were true; when I experienced, simply by being there with you all, what life in Christ really looks and feels like, I realized that I had not been living right, and my mind wasn’t made up yet whether I really wanted what you all had.  And so, by sitting on the fence, I gave room to this unclean spirit, and once again, my life took a turn it shouldn’t have.  And this time it took 7 years for me to finally humble myself, and give over to God what I wasn’t willing to give over 7 years earlier (what it was, I really am not sure, but God saw my heart and His judgment is true). 

And so, in February 2022, after finding out about my mother’s condition, with my pride and ego crushed into pieces by those 7 years of misery, I once again went down on my knees, and started pleading with God, not being sure whatsoever that He would ever listen to my prayers again.  But He did!  He had been waiting for me all those years.  He was just “A Prayer Away”, but may I add: a sincere prayer away.  After all those years of darkness and hopelessness, I suddenly felt the presence of God restored to me and around me.  I started feeling Him, I started feeling hope and love, and for a while I just couldn’t believe what was happening to me.

Now, I’m not sure how many days or weeks after this experience it happened, but there was a moment, while laying in my bed, when some thoughts started coming into my mind, and in a matter of moments those thoughts led me back to that same feeling: “It’s all lie. You are still not being sincere with God.  No matter how hard you keep trying, you are doomed!”  My first reaction was what I, at this point, had already gotten used to doing.  I believed it.  I think it was about a 24 hour period that I kept going around doing my business, but with the feeling that it doesn’t really matter because I am lost anyway.  

I remember that I was having an appointment at my hairdresser, and on my way there and back I was just wondering how I was gonna keep living my life like this.  Then, after I got home I started looking up some sports news on my computer, and suddenly a thought came into my heart.  It was this: “Well, whatever the case may be, I’m still not going to live in sin.”  And as soon as I had that thought, that cloud of condemnation started departing from me because I realized that that was the real me thinking.  My mind was made up that whatever I might think or feel for the rest of my life, I’m still gonna do what I believe to be the right thing.  Wow!!  That was a revelation.  And it’s perfectly echoed by what I read in the Thought for the Evening* yesterday:

“Make up your mind to serve God, no matter what you think or feel”

Even after this occasion, I remember being tempted by this same spirit once, and it felt tough at the time, but I know that the victory I had 2 years ago was big, and it has changed the dynamics of the whole thing – for good!  As yesterday’s Thought for the Evening* puts it, “A made-up mind IS the victory”, and I am experiencing that day by day.  Praise God!!

Just like Sister Amy said it yesterday (and I LOVED, LOVED her testimony): “When you want Jesus more than anything else…”  That’s the place you want to be in, and you want to hold on to that, because when you’re in that place, no challenge, no circumstance will be too hard for you.  God is so good!

Zoli

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Thank you for that testimony, Zoli.  When we will not entertain that hopeless demon’s voice, it will move on to find another home, another mind to torment.  I am glad you finally finished with it.

We are “appointed unto salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth.”  Those spirits are appointed to damnation, and they have no hope of escaping it.

Pastor John

* https://goingtojesus.com/gtj_thoughts.html?tname=tfe02-25