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  • 4th Century Christianity

    John,

    Thank you for sending the link to “4th Century Christianity”. The history of Christianity is astonishing.

    After hearing tonight the thoughts Jesus has given you recently about churches, Constantine and Christianity, and then to read what Paul saw and wrote in 2Corinthians 11 about another Jesus, another spirit, another gospel, the Truth shines even brighter.  And in 2Thessalonians 2 Paul said the mystery of iniquity was already at work in his day and time. What a warning from Jesus through him to the body! God does not want his children to be ignorant or deceived. His love for us came alive even more as I read these scriptures tonight.

    Jesus has put it in our hearts by way of his Spirit to love of the Truth if we will stay full of his Spirit.  As we love it, it is saving us. He said it would. It is so precious. I feel overwhelmed with gratefulness to Jesus.

    Bess

    *(If you want to see Rome’s laws (from Constantine’s time forward) here:

    https://www.fourthcentury.com/

    and scroll down to:

    Imperial Laws and Letters Involving Religion

  • Whew, Hearing This Tonight Was Wonderful.

    Whew, hearing this tonight was wonderful.

    Brother Gary’s song about the people not knowing and you talking about them being afraid to think the next thought, that it would be blasphemy, is so true! That’s exactly what I experienced. That was instilled in us from early on.

    Thinking anything other than Catholicism is right was enough to go to hell. They instill that from the very beginning, and it does it job. What an evil set-up it is!  If you can never have a thought that differs from what they are telling you, you are stuck, silent and afraid in that mess.  It is only God’s mercy to get out of that spider’s web.

    I thought tonight that anything that tells you not to go to you, Pastor John, or not to ask a question, or not to testify, or to sit quiet when Jesus is moving, is that same demon – or a real good friend to it.

    Every time we hear the truth, it does something.  Every time.  Cleaning out the dross!

    And what a song to dream!  “The book of Hebrews is full of good news!”*  I wish I could have been there in that dream watching you sing with that choir.

    Felt your prayers tonight.  Went back again just to hear you call out to God for us.

    So good!
    Beth Durham   

    (19) The Book of Hebrews – YouTube

  • The World in Man’s Heart

    Tonight, I read from Ecclesiastes 3:10–11, “I have seen the busyness that God has given to the sons of man to keep busy with.  He has made everything beautiful in its time.  He has also put the world in their heart, so that man cannot discover what God has done from beginning to end.”

    That is really something to read and to know He has taken the world OUT of our hearts.  He lets us know His story!  It touched me to read that!

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    Yes, Beth.

    The world is in everyone’s heart until Christ circumcises the world from our hearts by the Spirit.  That is something to be very thankful for!

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    What does the word “Ecclesiastes” mean?  Does it mean something, or was it just another name for Solomon?
    Beth D.
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    The word “Ecclesiastes” comes from the Hebrew word, “Qoheleth”.  Some actually use that name for the book instead of Ecclesiastes.  It apparently means something like “a gatherer of the Assembly” or “one who speaks to the Assembly”.  “The preacher (or pastor)” is another option.  If we choose that translation, the King James Version may have it right: The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
    We chose, at least for now, to translate that first verses of the book like this:
     
    1. The words of Ecclesiastes, son of David, king in Jerusalem.
    2. Vanity of vanities, says Ecclesiastes.  Vanity of vanities!  All is vanity!
    Thank you for the question.

    Pastor John

  • Old Meeting Notes #10

    So many good things to think on!  I had to read these Old Meeting notes twice and pray they would sink in. So good!

    Thanks,

    Paul Curtsinger

    10 – 1969 Gary’s CD 18, Part 2

  • Fallen Angels

    John,

    When Jonathan asked the question (below), I don’t think I ever put 2 and 2 together like I did reading this.

    And are they all still alive today and all the same demons?

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    Yes, and yes.

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    It makes sense now that when someone contacts the spirit world to get in touch with great-grandma whoever, that the person contacting the other world can answer questions that only family members know!  The spirits or demons that they are listening to have been here from day one. 

    Steve

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    That’s right, Steve.  It isn’t the dear, departed grandma that is saying those things; it is a demon claiming to be grandma.  Solomon said that the dead do not know anything under the sun.  They have no part with this life any longer.

    Pastor John 

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    Evening Pastor John,

    With the angels who forsook their heavenly bodies to trade for human bodies, were they the first demons in God’s creation?

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    Yes.

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    Are demons all former fallen angels?

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    Yes.

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    Prior to them forsaking their heavenly bodies, were there no demons?

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    No, there were none.  But remember, (1) angels committed that sin very early in world history and (2) humans had fallen into sin even before the angels did that.  Men do not need Satan or his angels in order to sin.

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    And are they all still alive today and all the same demons? 

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    Yes, and yes.

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    If so, does this mean that since heaven has been purged by God, when he cast Satan out, that no new demons or evil spirits can be made? 

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    All things are possible, but if there are others added, or will be others, we are not told about it.  At the same time, we must admit that it is certainly possible that along the way in human history, more and more angels could have sinned like that. 

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    Are evil/bad spirits much different from demons?

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    There is no difference.  But, again, remember that humans have their own evil/bad spirits apart from the evil spirits of fallen angels.

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    Are we all today still dealing with the original fallen angels?

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    Yes.

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    Much obliged,

    Jonathan S.

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    Good questions, all, Jonathan.  Thank you for asking.

    Pastor John

  • Evil Spirits before Satan Was Cast Out

    Hi John,

    I was listening to the audio Bible book of Luke on the way to work this morning, and when it came to Luke 11:14, when Jesus cast out the dumb spirit, it struck me that there were demons and other unclean spirits while Jesus was here on earth.  This would have been before Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven in Revelation 12:9.  So my question is, could the evil spirits spoken of before Satan was cast out be angels who “left their proper abode” when they possessed humans (e.g. Genesis 6:2,4), and then were not allowed back into heaven, because they no longer had the bodies that God had given them?

    Vince

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    Hi Vince.
    It appears to be the case that the angels who “left their proper abode” (Jude 1:6) to possess men were not afterward allowed to re-enter their original bodies.  However, God definitely still allowed them into heaven (cf. 2Kgs. 22:19-22), until the resurrected Jesus banished Satan and all his angels from heaven forever.

    The sinful angels not being allowed to re-enter their original bodies, (which Jude also called “their own domain” — Jude 1:6), is different from not being allowed into heaven.

    Hope that is clear.
    Pastor John

  • What Satan Is: Allison

    Pastor John,

    This came to me.

    Satan is angry, bitter, hateful, a victim, disturbed, agitated, and not-at-peace. So is the world which he rules!

    Just as bad kings influenced their subjects during the Old Testament, so does Satan influence his subjects in this world.

    God help those who unknowingly continue to be ruled by Satan!

    ~Allison

  • This Morning

    Pastor John,

    I had some good thoughts from the Spirit this morning, mainly: “Stop reacting to your surroundings. Your relationship is with Jesus, not your surroundings.”

    That is life in this new covenant: being in this world, but not of it.

    We move when Jesus says move.  Our being is in him.

    If we respond to our surroundings, which are ever-changing and usually in some kind of turmoil, we will be tossed in every direction. We’ll never know what to do, or how much.

    We move when he moves.

    It was a good reminder this morning that He is Lord of all of it.

    Things are changing in this world, more than I ever thought I would see in my lifetime.  But we are called to perfect peace, with our hearts and minds stayed on him.

    Jerry

  • Tonight’s Meeting (Aug. 9,2023)

    John,

    I am so thankful and excited about what you taught us tonight in the introduction to the Job study we are about to read together.  In Proverbs 4:7, it says, “Wisdom is the principal thing; get wisdom!  And with all your getting, get understanding!”

    What you taught us tonight about Satan was clearer to me than what I have learned in the past.  As you said, it “cleared out some smoke.”  We are getting a better understanding of who God is!  And that understanding takes away fear and doubt and confusion about Satan and who he is. 

    How much better it is to have understanding!  It takes away fears, confusion and doubts, and replaces it with trust, confidence and respect in the One who it belongs to: God. Thank you for clearing out some of the smoke tonight.  What an honor it is to be able to be taught by someone God has sent, such as you, John!  

    Thank you. 

    Stuart

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    Good Morning Pastor John!

    What a wonderful lesson last night.  A whole new perspective on the accuser, Job, his friends and even; probably most importantly, God.  Wow!  I have to let this sink down to my heart.  Thank you!

    Mark

  • Nugget from Today’s TFE

    Pastor John,

    Several months ago, I was hugely blessed by two “thoughts for the day” that I read on one of your websites within two weeks from each other.  One was a letter you had received from a brother in which he, among other things, wrote that the holy Ghost is not the third person of a “trinity”, but Christ himself.  The other one was titled, ‘The Breath of Our Nostrils’, and it was about how Aaron Nelson and your son Elijah discovered a reference to Jesus’ descent into hell in the book of Lamentations.  That verse (Lam. 4:20) was another confirmation from the Scriptures of the truth that the Lord, indeed, “is that Spirit”, as Paul called him.  The verse from laminatations calls the Messiah (the anointed one) the “breath of our nostrils” – which is clearly a reference to God’s Spirit.  By the time I read these “thoughts”, I had already believed in my heart that the doctrine of the trinity was a lie; but the Spirit used these two pieces of writing in a special way to make this revelation (that the Spirit descending on Jesus at the Jordan River was actually the Son himself “suddenly coming into His temple” – Malachi) more real and more personal to me than it had ever been.

    Now, today, about two hours ago, I was reading today’s “Thought for the Evening” (8/5)*, and while doing it, I think I found another clue in the Bible that reveals this very same truth.  It brought joy and excitement to my heart, so I wanted to share it.  In today’s TFE (The Gods, Part Four) there is a quote from Psalms that goes like this: “By the word of the Lord were the heavens made, and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth” (Ps 33:6).

    After reading this quote, I had the following thoughts: From John chapter 1 and Revelation 19 we know that Jesus IS the Word of God, and from a number of NT scriptures it is also clear that God created all things through His Son (except for the Son himself who was created by the Father).  But here, in Ps 33:6, the Spirit reveals that the work of creation took place not only “by the word of the Lord”, but also through “the breath” (ruach) of the “mouth” of Jehovah.  One of the very few things I know about Hebrew is that ruach (just like pneuma in the Greek) is not only the word for “breath” and “wind”, but also the word for “spirit”.  Isn’t it clear then, that if God created all things through His Son, but the Scriptures also tell us that God did His creative work by His Spirit (the breath of His mouth), then the two cannot possibly be two separate persons?  Isn’t it wonderful?

    One of my favorite discoveries on the subject is how plainly Jesus spoke of this, when in John 14 he promised the disciples to give them “another comforter” that he also calls “the spirit of truth” that “shall be in [them]”; and then, right after saying this he adds, “I will not leave you comfortless:  I will come to you”. I had read these same verses so many times over the years, but it never occurred to me what is now so clear and obvious, after having learned the truth.  Praise God for it!

    Zoli

    *  Going to Jesus.com – The Gods, Part Four: Judging

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