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  • The Father and the Son*

    Hello and blessings,

    Is the author still around?  Have a question, why does he use the word “created” in respect to the Son?  Because by context it appears author believes Christ is BEGOTTEN, ie PSALM 2:7.

    BEGOTTEN is much different from Created, creating implies design by active use of mind to fabricate, but BEGOTTEN is not that.  I see it as a budding off and becoming a separate person and is the reason john 1:18 says begotten Theos, and by the way i am NOT a Trinitarian.

    I believe Jesus is Theos because His Father who begat him is Theos, just as my son is man since im man but Jesus said: “The father is Greater than I” which fits right in with correct non kjb translation of Philippians 2:6

    Anyway I only skimmed couple minutes of writings here but i don’t have time to read all. I just wanted succincr short answer what authir believes on Christ and God tge father abd holy spirit.

    Myself i think holy spirit is not just some power force of God but Literally the SPIRIT of God since God is spirit and of course spirit is powerful. But i dont holy spirit is not a Separate person from God the Father who is also God Almighty himself ie as the self contradicting trinity claims.

    Anyway hope someone can reply with summary of authors beliefs since im curious but cant read all. Thanks and Gid bless! 

    BC

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    Greetings, BC.

    Thank you for writing and asking your question.

    The fine distinction between “created” and “begotten” is an old one which comes from a pagan philosophical mind set.  Christians used it from the beginning of their Trinitarian religion to get around the simple truth that the Son of God was created.  The fact that the Son was created does not prevent him from being made God over the universe which he created at the command of the Father (cf. Heb 3:4).  Nor does it negate the fact that God the Father is God over him (cf. Jn. 20:17).

    The word “God” is a simply title, and God the Father has at times granted that title to others when He gave them authority over a place or people.  He granted that title to Moses (Ex. 7:1), to the judges and rulers of Israel (Ex. 22:8–9, 28), and to angels (Ps. 8:5) in order to signify the authority He had given them.  Much more, then, should we expect in the Scriptures to find such verses as this, from Hebrews 1:8 “But to the Son [God said], “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever.  The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness.”

    Your analogy of your son being a man because you are a man is a perfect picture of what I am teaching.  Those who are born of God, as was the Son, are also gods, as Jesus said in John 10:34–35.  And those who are gods can say, as Jesus did (Jn. 14:28), that God is greater than they are, even though they are gods.  In Philippians 2:6 (the scripture you mentioned), we are told first that the Son of God existed “in the form of God” before he came to earth, which is true because the Son was created as “the exact representation of His being” (Heb. 1:3).  But then, in that same verse, we are told that the Son “did not consider equality with God as something to be grasped after.”  So, you see, the Son is God, and yet, his God is greater than he is.  Likewise, those who are born of God are gods, and yet the Father and the Son are greater than they are.

    Lastly, the Spirit of God is God’s Spirit.  That is all there is to it.  The Spirit is God’s life, just as your spirit is your life.  Without it, you are dead, and without God’s Spirit, you are dead even if you are still walking around on earth.  Jesus said so (Mt. 8:22, et.al.).  And Paul suggested as much when he said, “If any man does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him” (Rom. 8:9b).

    So, the real issue is, BC, do you have the holy Ghost?  While I am willing to discuss with you such matters as you brought up in your email, the real issue is whether or not God Himself has borne you witness, that you have truly believed and repented, by baptizing you with His Spirit as He did Cornelius and those in his house (cf. Acts 15:8).  I hope that has happened to you, or that it will soon happen, because if not, you will be condemned in the end for not submitting to the Son’ and his baptism, regardless of what scriptures you think you understand or what you believe about anything.

    Thank you again for writing.  I have explained the truth of the matter as well as I know how, and I hope that helps.

    May God bless you and yours is my hope.

    Pastor John

    * https://goingtojesus.com/gtj_books.html?tname=fands

     

  • Pioneer Tract Website

    https://www.pioneertract.com

    https://www.pioneertract.com/broadcasters/notme.htm

    Good morning,

    Wow! I feel like I opened up a treasure chest of gold this morning. Bess told me about the broadcaster ” It Isn’t Me” and when I opened up and began to read the Pioneer Tract Society page,  I got excited! It really feels like I opened a chest of gold! We have so much. I can’t wait to read more! Just seeing the pictures of old saints filled me with faith. 

    And Bess was right, the Broadcaster, “It Isn’t Me”, is wonderful!

    Beth D.

  • What I Feel from the Meeting

    “Everything except the holy Ghost is not right.  Be of good cheer, the holy Ghost is here!  It’s the only thing in this world that is right, pure, and clean.  It’s the only thing that will take you out of the grave.”

    To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: ~ Colossians 1:27

    While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal. ~ 2 Corinthians 4:18

    The holy Spirit living in me is eternal, and it’s the only thing that I can take with me when I die.  Thank you, Father, that you sent your Son so that those who believe in Him may have life.  Pure, right, and clean life.  Thank you, Jesus!

    Leika

  • Meeting Notes 

    Pastor John,

    I took some notes on the meeting of things that were said that stood out to me, and I thought they were so good! Sometimes I think it is helpful for it to sink in more if I read it, so I wanted to send them to you in case anyone else wanted to read them!

    “You don’t have to defend yourself, explain yourself… you just have to be in love with Jesus. Whoever that touches, then that’s who God wants, scripture or no scripture.”

    “The Holy Ghost is the spirit of truth, it has more authority in it than the scriptures do. The Bible is going to burn up, but the holy Ghost won’t.”

    “If the Son of God sets you free, then you are free indeed. Free to obey God all the time.  Free to be free, and to be happy about it.”

    “One thing we know is that God has loved us.  How entangled is your soul with this world?  You don’t want to have a yoke with this world.”

    “God prunes us from interest in things of this world that tug at us.  We need to fall so much in love with Jesus that we want to be pruned.”

    “Whichever direction you want us to go, God, pulls us in that direction.  Let us have an ear to hear it.”

    “God has an answer for us.  Everything that He has pruned on us, it’s Him saying He is going to save us if we just hold on.”

    “Go to God first, with any problem you have.  He will always be there, and we need to trust Him.”

    “We know that all things work together for our good.  If there is a correction, then praise God, it’s for our good.”

    “Everything except the holy Ghost is not right.  Be of good cheer, the holy Ghost is here!  It’s the only thing in this world that is right, pure, and clean.  It’s the only thing that will take you out of the grave.”

    “Everything that God has ever taught us has given us power to love Him more.  He is pure, and His word is pure, and it purifies us when we take it in and love it.  We want to see Jesus and love Him the way the Father does.”

    Thank you!

    Samantha

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    Thank you, Samantha!  That is so good of you to do that for everybody!

    Pastor John

  • Apocalypse Meaning

    Good morning, 

    I looked up the word Apocalypse, just curious as to what it actually means.  I found a few definitions that say it is “to reveal, or a prophetic revelation.”

    I never put that together, that the book of Revelation was simply God revealing to John what was going to happen.  In the past, what I took in about it was filtered through fear.

    I feel relief in that.  It feels merciful.  It changes how I feel about the book of Revelation, and it changes what I feel about the word Apocalypse.  It feels merciful for God to have revealed that to John and us.

    Beth

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    Amen, Beth.

    That’s why Jesus said for us to “be anxious for nothing.”  For those who love and serve him, it’s all good.

    Pastor John

    (Follow the link below to read Pastor John’s book: Revelation.)

    Going to Jesus.com – Revelation

  • I Believe

    Hi Pastor John,

    I’m reading in the GCC stories* tonight.  I read this poem your dad wrote.  I love it!  What a blessing it is to believe!

    I Believe 

    by George C Clark 

    I believe in the old time power which fell at Pentecost. 

    You may call it the Holy Spirit, but to me it’s the Holy Ghost. 

    I believe they were converted who tarried there for him. 

    I believe in the old time power, 

    from the beginning to the end.

    I believe that the spirit witnessed with cloven tongues of fire.

    I believe that the people heard him who came from the lands afar. 

    I believe they were confounded, while others said amen. 

    I believe in the old time power, 

    from the beginning to the end.

    I believe if you would enter the chosen bride of Christ,

    You’ll have to have his Spirit and make the sacrifice,

    I believe the Lord is saying, “Ye must be born again.”

    I believe in the old time power,

    from the beginning to the end.

    I believe that old Cornelius received  the Holy Ghost.

    I believe that the Spirit witnessed, just like at Pentecost. 

    I believe he was a Gentile, a Roman I contend. 

    I believe in the old time power,

    from the beginning to the end.

    I believe that Paul did enter, and passed the upper coast, 

    and came unto the Ephesians to give them the Holy Ghost. 

    I believe twelve men received it when Paul laid on his hand.

    I believe in the old time power

    from the beginning to the end.

    Michelle

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    Thank you, Michelle.  That is actually a song.  Maybe we’ll sing it soon.

    Pastor John

    * The Pioneer Tract Society – Burlington, NC

  • The Worst Kind of Lie

    Good morning, 

    This is so good! I catch myself copying whole chapters to send to you because it is so good!  From your book, God Had A Son before Mary Did: The Significance of God’s Revelation of His Son:*

    Beth D.

    Hypocrisy

    When someone becomes a lie, even true words that he may speak are lies because his use of those true words leaves the impression that he himself is truthful

    Demonic Wisdom

    The Institution trains men in this demonic wisdom. Insisting on ceremonial forms and promising people eternal benefits for participating in them, the Institution compels people to embrace its appearance of righteousness rather than seek the righteousness of God. Christianity claims to be the way, and the only way to God. It is, in fact, the darkest of all religions, for unlike any of man’s other religions, it proclaims its dead forms in the name of the Prince of life. Jesus told me long ago, “The closer a thing comes to being true without being true, the more evil it is because the more people it will deceive.” Using the precious name of Jesus does not sanctify Christianity’s forms; it only gives them an appearance of legitimacy in the eyes of those who believe in Jesus but do not yet have the knowledge of God.

    * Going to Jesus.com – God Had A Son Before Mary Did

  • He Knows What We Need

    Good morning! 

    Yesterday I was getting ready for my day, just talking to Jesus as I went along.  I started hearing this worldly song and the words are, “No, you can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometime, you’ll find, you get what you need.”  That thought made me so happy!  I said Jesus you always give us what we need!  Then I started thinking about the body.  Jesus has hand-picked us and put us here together.  It wasn’t our choice, it was his.  Jesus knows what we need so he’s given it to us………..he’s given us each other!  That just thrills my heart!

    Michelle

  • A Burden Lifted

    I love all of us! 

    I didn’t know repenting could feel wonderful!  I thought of it as heavy and hard and deep with tears, but Jesus can do it any way he wants to.  He can make it wonderful.  I did not know that! 

    Beth D.

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    Amen, Beth!

    As Brother James once said, “God can be right any kinda way He wants to.”  I believe that.

    Pastor John

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    Hey Pastor John!

    When Beth was blessed today, I felt a heavy burden lifted!  I’m so thankful!  It was beautiful to watch and to feel!  I’ve never experienced anything like that before!

    Michelle

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    Hi Michelle.

    New experiences in the Spirit always teach us more about Jesus.  You now know more about him than you knew before our meeting today because of that experience.  Rejoice!  Jesus is making you wiser.

    Pastor John

  • Ephesians 4:8

    Ephesians 4:8: “Wherefore it says, “When he ascended on high, he took captivity captive, and he gave gifts to men.”

    Bro John,

    Is Ephesians 4:8 referring to the moment Paradise was transferred to heaven?  Did Jesus lead that captivity (Paradise, the holding place for the righteous dead,) out of the heart of the earth after three days, to be with him in heaven?

    Jerry

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    That is how it looks to me, Jerry.  At the same time, I am acutely aware of the fact that there is much that we still don’t know.  I thank God for the wonderful truths He has shown us.  In fact, it is because He has taught us so much that you even are able to think about and ask that question!  Maybe Jesus will reveal to us more about it.  I hope so.  Let’s pray for that.

    Love you, brother.

    Pastor John

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