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  • Stubbornness

    Good morning, 

    Jerry and I were just talking about stubbornness and where it can lead.  This part of Samuel struck me, and it makes me pray that there be no stubbornness in me, and to just do what God says to do, how He says to do it! 

    1 Samuel 15:

    20. And Saul said to Samuel, “I obeyed the voice of Jehovah! I went the way that Jehovah sent me; I brought back Agag, the king of Amalek; and I utterly destroyed Amalek!

    21. But the people took of the spoil, sheep and cattle, the best of the devoted things to sacrifice to Jehovah your God in Gilgal.”

    22. And Samuel said, “Does Jehovah delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of Jehovah? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen, than the fat of rams.

    23. For rebellion is as the sin of divination, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because you have rejected the word of the Lord, He has rejected you from being king.

    Beth D.

  • Solomon

    Pastor John,

    I am hesitant to write this email, but I feel I must, as there’s something askew in my spirit.  The only way I know to fix it is to expose it.

    Lately, when I read the Solomon’s Wisdom excerpts, I feel he was like Christians of today, thinking he can do whatever he wants and still be blessed by God: 700 wives, 300 concubines, and wealth beyond belief.  Jim and Tammy Fay Baker comes to mind as I am reading: air conditioned dog house, lavish life style.

    Many Christians claim to be able to commit any sin and God will still bless them because they are “saved”.  And some of them are still receiving His blessings, growing in fame and fortune.  It causes my flesh to protest, “If God is blessing that, then what am I doing?” is the feeling.  

    Are we to celebrate Solomon’s lifestyle, or Jim and Tammy’s?  How should I feel about this?  How could anyone have 1000 women and treat them right while still being right with God?  Is Solomon’s life a lesson of how anyone can go wrong?  I know he started out right with God, but where was he with God at that time?

    Or is it me?  Am I jealous, feeling left out?  I pray not.  I don’t want wealth, or many women.  I will be honest, a companion would be nice, but not more than one, and a godly one.  So if it is me, please pray whatever it is will be exposed so I can get rid of it. 

    I don’t like what I am feeling as I read these excerpts from Solomon, so I find myself not reading them every day anymore, and I do miss the blessings I was getting from them.  I think it is my lack of understanding holding me back.  

    These feelings have caused me to sing a new jingle:

    I want what God wants me to want (3times)

    I want what God wants me to want all day long

    I think what God wants me to think x3

    I think what God wants me to think all day long

    I feel what God wants me to feel x3

    I feel what God wants me to feel all day long.

    I love what God wants me to love x3

    I love what God wants me to love all day long

    I hate what God wants me to hate x3

    I hate what God wants me to hate, all day long

    I pray you can bring understanding and peace to me over this.

    Mark

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    Hi Mark.

    The short answer is that Solomon was wise when he was young, that is, when he wrote the excerpts you have been reading, but that he became foolish as he grew older.  He even constructed an altar to the heathen god Molech for his Moabite wife, which was a god to which the Moabites and Ammonites sacrificed their children (1Kgs. 11:7–8).  And that altar remained in use on the top of the Mount of Olives for centuries before young king Josiah tore it down (2Kgs. 23:13).

    It is true that before he died, Solomon greatly displeased God, but don’t let that sad fact deter you from enjoying the wisdom God gave him when he was young.

    Thank you for writing.  This life is a spiritual battleground, isn’t it?  Keep singing your song.

    Jdc

  • Hating Sin, Not the Sinner?

    Pastor John:

    WoW! I really felt convicted by your words last night. How much I hate sin is directly correlates to how much I love Jesus!

    I know I was a sin tolerator before Jesus blessed me with holy Spirit, but I realized last night that that sin tolerator is not completely dead. While I thought I understood and lived by hating the sin and not the sinner, it was put on my heart last night that I really didn’t hate the sin.  My desire to not hate people – being a person who sometimes felt hated just because of the color of my skin – kept me from really hating sin.  I could feel that I hadn’t separated the two in my heart.  Flashes of my responses to instances where my patient and loving husband had questioned me about my attitude towards certain sinful ways came before me.  I knew I needed to repent for not hating sin enough!!!

    I pray that Jesus gives me a heart that knows how to hate sin with the same vigor with which He loves me!  I can already feel a shift happening, and I pray that he allows me to want to want that shift more and more.

    Praise God for the fellowship I felt last night!  I could feel the grief that the body felt when Sandy was lost.  I feel that now for a few brothers and sisters, and I’ve only been a part of the body for a few years.  I’ve said it before, but I’ll say it again – I am so grateful Jesus put me in this body

    Now I’m not so sure about this hate the sin not the sinner…

    I did a Google search on that, and it seems that sentiment is not biblical  I read Proverbs 6:16, and if I am to hate the things God hates, then how could I not hate the person who has haughty eyes or a lying tongue, who kills, devises wicked plans, runs to evil, lies or sows discord among brothers?  I doubt Jesus would want me to only hate the persons’ eyes, tongue, hands, etc…

    Perhaps where I’ve been going wrong is in the belief that I should hate the sin and not the sinner?

    ~Allison

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    Hi, Allison.

    Yours is a great testimony.  I am glad you are still growing and learning.  In Christ, that never stops!

    That phrase, “hate the sin, but not the sinner” is OK.  It certainly is not as bad as such Christian cliches as “join the church of your choice” and “we have to love everybody” and “we have to forgive everybody”, etc.  God loved us when we were sinners, and sent His Son to die for us while we were in sin.  So He certainly loved us, but not our sin.  So, there is that.

    But we also have such scriptures as these:

    “Do I not hate them, O Jehovah, who hate you, and abhor those who rise up against you?  I hate them with perfect hatred.  They are become my enemies” (Ps. 139:21–22).

    “Braggarts will not stand in your sight.  You hate all evildoers” (Ps. 5:5).

    “The Lord tries the righteous, but the wicked man and him who loves violence, His soul hates” (Ps. 11:5).

    So, there is that, too.

    The simplest and safest thing for us to do is to live so that we give God no reason to hate us, and not to keep company with those who do provoke His wrath.

    Thank you for writing.  I hope that clears up what the Bible says about the issue of “hating the sin, but not the sinner”.

    Pastor John

     

  • Numbers 20:12

    Hi Pastor John, 

    I know that God did not allow Moses into the Promised Land but was Aaron not allowed either?  I never noticed this before.

    Numbers 20:12 – Then Jehovah said to Moses and to Aaron, “Because you did not believe me to sanctify me in the sight of the children of Israel, therefore, you shall not bring this Assembly into the land that I have given them.”

    Michelle

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    Hi Michelle!

    God held both Moses and Aaron responsible for what happened at the rock that Moses was supposed to speak to. Note that the “you’s” in that verse are plural.  They were both guilty. 

    Thank you for the question. 

    Pastor John

  • Feeling Blessed

    Hi Pastor John, 

    I wanted to share how I was feeling today. I had a sweet day at work, just a normal day, but I felt so blessed by God to know the truth and belong here. Early in the morning I looked at the photo of the day of you and brother Earl in a meeting, and I thought, “wow, those are my people”! I was so happy to belong! And then at times today, it felt so good and I just FELT so blessed; it was as though Jesus was thinking of me. It just felt so good, to feel blessed. I don’t have words to describe it. Then this afternoon I had a conversation with a co-worker; she has the holy Ghost, but is stuck in some type of Pentecostal denomination. She was reading online about what the Methodists believe because a patient was talking to her about it, and she wanted to learn. It made me think of the mess of the Methodists, and the mess she is in, and I just felt so thankful for the pure, and good food we have from you, and Jesus. 

    I just wish I could describe how thankful I am. It is SO good! Anything that is true; I love it! That’s all – I just wanted to share that. 

    Jenny

    John and Earl

  • Today’s Message

    Brother John,

    I wrote this down today on my papers.  I felt like it was what you were saying to us all:

    Everything created on earth is just a tool to this end: What does God want me to do?

    Jerry

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    Pastor John,

    Everything you said today felt beautifully perfect and perfectly beautiful! 

    Beth D.

  • Thankful for Clear Directions

    Pastor John,

    Wednesday night’s meeting was so good! Thank you for feeding us the words of life! They are so precious! 

    One thing that stood out to me was something Rob said in his testimony about needing help on what to do as he was caring for Joel when he was sick with Covid. Rob asked Jesus to make it very clear on what he should do. I have been writing out my testimony about the events that lead up to our decision to get the vaccine after our exposure to Covid in the mountain house, so I wanted to share it. I am very grateful how Jesus can make things very clear for us when we don’t know what to do. 

    Since the beginning of the Covid pandemic things have really changed. Some of the changes have been wonderful blessings but other changes have seemed to cause division and confusion. One of the areas of concern surrounding the virus has been the vaccine.

    I have heard scientific data as to why we should get the vaccine and the natural immunity arguments as to why we shouldn’t get it. The information about the virus and the vaccines is ever changing and people’s attitudes toward all of it, at times, has been very alarming no matter which side of the argument they fall on. I have heard of nurses and other healthcare workers who quit their jobs because they refused to take the vaccine. While other medical workers plead with everyone to get the vaccine to help save lives. I had been praying for Jesus to help make it clear which direction we should go regarding the vaccine. I wanted to stay neutral and let Jesus provide direction.

    I feel like Jesus set us up to go on an unplanned trip to the mountains to help make things very clear on which way to go. We were going to stay in the mountains from Sunday to Wednesday afternoon. The trip was wonderful and we had a very sweet time with everyone. We were having such a great time that we stayed an extra night. 

    While we were on the trip, we visited with Joel N. when he unknowingly had Covid. Staying at the house that extra night, we spent several hours with Joel which gave us a significant exposure to the virus. Richard and I left on Thursday morning and our girls stayed another night returning with the Nelsons on Friday.

    On Sunday morning, I pulled up Facebook and on my Newsfeed there was a post by one of my former co-workers that I stopped to read. Normally I would skim past such posts about Covid and vaccines but this time I stopped and read it. It was an article written by a physician that has worked on a Covid unit since the beginning of the pandemic. He spoke of how hard it was to watch patient after patient struggle to breathe. It was physically and emotionally draining for him and all the staff to take care of these people and watch them die from the virus. 

    One of the striking things he said in the article was that he was having a difficult time mustering up compassion for patients that are now coming into the hospital struggling to breathe and then dying because they have made a choice not to vaccinate. 

    The physician spoke about one man in particular that had come into the hospital with Covid. The man was around my age, married, and had young children. The physician asked him why he chose not to get vaccinated. The man’s reasons sounded similar Richard’s reasons for not wanting to get vaccinated. The man eventually died in the hospital. The physician felt people were dying unnecessarily since there was now a vaccine that can help decrease the chance of dying from Covid.

    At the end of the article he wrote: “Covid will find you!” When I read that, the words jumped off the page at me. I clicked off Facebook and saw I had a text message from Donna N. telling us that Joel was very sick. He was in the ER with a high fever and had tested positive for Covid. Covid had found us!

    Up to that point we had been so careful. We had been diligent in staying as safe as we could to keep ourselves, our children, and the ones we love safe. We had done our part to the best of our ability. But yet, there it happened, we were unknowingly exposed to Covid. I felt more strongly than ever like it was ok to get the vaccine. I told Richard about the article from the physician and how he said Covid would find us. Richard told me I was free to get it if I wanted but he still did not have the feeling to get it. 

    Later that same morning my dad called and told Richard of a dream he had a couple days before. It was a strange dream and my dad wasn’t going to tell him about it but given our virus exposure from the mountain trip, he felt he should tell the dream. Richard and I both felt like the dream was a message from Jesus letting him know he was unnecessarily exposing our family and others to the virus and that it was ok to get vaccinated. When Jesus gives us a clear direction it makes everything else nothing (our thoughts, opinions, research, reservations) and brings a huge relief. I am thankful for Jesus’ help in this crazy time. His words make all the difference. 

    Amy F.

  • True Freedom

    Brother John, 

    I love what you said tonight about liberty — complete liberty.  God’s children have a liberty from many of the things that burden men, including earthly laws that are made to bind a man’s flesh (for his sake and for the sake of others).  We are free, not because we have the liberty to do evil or to be lawless, but because God’s children don’t need to be bound to be good.  God’s children don’t need restraint against their nature.  The saints’ nature isn’t contrary to law; it is the law.  Only the spirit of God in a child of God is ever holy.

    We are that free.  God has made us so.

    But you asked tonight, “Are we free enough to live under the burdens that we are free from?  Are we that free?”

    Are we free to wear shackles that Jesus broke off of us, if it furthers the gospel?

    Are we free to hurt when we can have relief, if it is good for others?

    Are we free to suffer wrong to keep godly peace?

    Are we free to be less successful than we might be?  Are we free to do without?  Are we free to fail?

    “Free from what, or whom?” Someone might ask.  The answer: free from ourselves of course, is the answer.  Am I free enough from me to do all these things?  If I’m not free from me, I’m not free at all; I’m my biggest captor.

    It is like you said so many years ago on your radio program.  You challenged the toughest man listening, “Just try to stop sinning if you can. Try to stop being self-willed.  If it is your choice, then stop today; just try it.”  It was a plea for people to realize they are not free. They are bound to the will of their flesh, and they need help from the only One who can make them free. 

    Jesus has made us free.  I believe we are free enough in our hearts and conscience to walk away from anything in this world we perceive not to be Jesus (so far) — regardless of how good it looks.  I believe Jesus broke those kinds of chains off of us, and you have been coaxing us to believe it for at least 20 years.  At least.  I believe we are free enough to run away from what looks good with no fear at all.  But the question you asked, is, “Are we free enough to stay – if it is pleasing to God?”

    Another way of saying that might be, “Do you have enough humility to stay?  Are you humble enough to stay in chains when you don’t have to wear them, if it could do someone else some good?  Do we have the humility to be in bondage for other’s sake?”  I think is what you were asking tonight.  I think you helped us with the answer when you said attitudes toward some current events have indicated the answer is no, at times, and that those attitudes are dangerous to our souls.

    A couple of years ago, you told us that you had no fear for a man to come in and preach to us if he had a message he wanted to share.  You had no fear of us being confused or swept away by a man’s ignorance or wrong ideas.  You said it wasn’t his effect on us that concerned you, but how we might treat him.  That is what worried you.  I’ve never heard you repeat that since that evening, but I feel you were saying that in all of the goodness and liberty Jesus has extended, we could hurt someone with what we have if we lead with the pointed end of our blessing.

    I was in the shower the other day and I feel like Jesus was reinforcing something that I think He’s been saying to me for some time now.  The same things keep coming back around.  I felt like He told me, “The truth is not a sword, it is your shield.  It is to protect you from what others might do to you; it is not for you to attack the defenseless.”  I am reminded of that experience when considering all you said tonight about attitude. 

    There sure are a lot of people out there with some strange behaviors and ideas about God before they end up getting the holy Ghost.  Who knows how God communicates to them until they really know something.  I guess, in whatever way they understand.  Things like that make me consider what you told us about your father.  You said that God told him, “Don’t ever speak ill of someone who speaks well of my Son.”  This last month, I’ve been wondering before the Lord how many people with sincere experiences I might have winced at and, perhaps unintentionally, discouraged over the years, just because they didn’t have the blessings I have been given.  It has made me want to slow down and wait to hear from Jesus about anything that has to do with the Father or the Son.  He can surely tell me what is Him – He’s done it before.

    Thank you for tonight and that excellent question – “Are we free enough to stay bound?”

    I was thinking about how bound Jesus was for us.  He was bound by hunger, sleeplessness, loneliness, and the list goes on.  Jesus stayed bound inside the flesh of a dying body, to save us, and he bore that death to its dying breath, refusing every moment’s impulse to be set free, knowing God had promised Him countless angels to do it.  He wouldn’t have had to turn down that offer just once; He would have had to turn it down with every labored breath he took, until there just weren’t anymore.  Jesus had to be free even from living in order to do that.

    Thank you again for tonight.

    Jerry

  • Question #2 -Spirit Baptism and the New Birth

    Thank you so much for replying.

    I also appreciate you explaining religion is not the goal which I agree with.

    When I asked if only true believers will speak in tongues, I was trying to imply that as we both probably agree on, only those who have been born again can speak in tongues. Other religions (like early Mormons or Hindus) can claim what they want but that is only reserved for those who have been born again (are Christ-followers).  

    But just to be sure I am understanding you correctly: are you saying the speaking in tongues is evidence that a person has been born again? In other words, if someone claims to be regenerate but they have never spoken in tongues, does that mean they are not regenerate? 

    Thank you for your time. 

    Dominic

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    I hope this makes what I am saying clear:

    “But just to be sure I am understanding you correctly: are you saying the speaking in tongues is evidence that a person has been born again?”  YES.  “In other words, if someone claims to be regenerate but they have never spoken in tongues, does that mean they are not regenerate?”  YES.  What men claim means nothing.

    If I have again not made myself clear, please keep trying.  I’m sure I can do it if given enough chances!

    God bless.

    Pastor John

  • Question #1 from Pastor Johns House – Fwd: Spirit Baptism

    Good evening Pastor John.  

    I hope all is well. I was reading through some of your book “Speaking in Tongues at Spirit Baptism” and was trying to understand the conclusion of the book. Is it that true believers in Jesus will speak in tongues or that only true believers in Jesus will speak in tongues?  

    As you can see, one word made the difference in that question. So, what I’m basically asking is that those who are actually Christians will speak in tongues? Or that in order for you to actually be a Christian, you must speak in tongues? 

    Thanks so much and God bless.  

    Dominic.

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    Thank you, Dominic, for writing. I am glad that you took the time to read my book, and I am happy to answer your questions.

    “Only” is the correct answer.  I am sorry if I did not make that plain enough in the book. 

    Dominic, only God knows the heart, as the Bible says, and everything I see in the Bible indicates that only God knows when a heart has truly repented.  And He has not left His precious children to guess who has repented and been washed by the Spirit and who has not.  He has given what Paul called the “sign for unbelievers”, to wit, speaking in tongues, or “stammering lips”.

    That the baptism of the holy Ghost is the new birth is not even an issue among reasonable students of the Bible. And I am fully persuaded, as I tried to explain in my book, that the Spirit’s sound is heard every time it happens, just as Jesus told Nicodemus.

    Finally, it is important to note that being a “Christian” has nothing to do with anything in the kingdom of God.  To be what is now called a Christian means nothing to God. Only what is of the Spirit, which Jesus purchased for us with his blood, counts with God.  Church religion is of the devil, not Christ, and it is a great blessing to know that, so that we might obey the heavenly voice crying out to all who belong to God, “Come out of her, my people!”

    Coming out of that religion is the only way God’s children will ever be made one as the Father and Son are one. The religious system called Christianity is the very thing that divides God’s children. We must escape its clutches if we are ever to be truly free.  I invite you to join us on the journey.

    Thank you again for writing.  I hope you will stay in touch.  It matters to Jesus, and to me, what you think and how you feel about these important matters.

    God bless you as you continue to pursue the knowledge of God.

    Your servant in Christ Jesus the Lord,

    Pastor John

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