{"id":14230,"date":"2023-09-25T14:16:49","date_gmt":"2023-09-25T14:16:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/pjhmail.wordpress.com\/?p=14230"},"modified":"2023-09-25T14:16:49","modified_gmt":"2023-09-25T14:16:49","slug":"trinity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/14230\/trinity\/","title":{"rendered":"Trinity"},"content":{"rendered":"

Dear Pastor John,<\/span><\/p>\n

About a week ago, I can’t remember the exact setting, but I started having thoughts coming to me about the “Trinity”.\u00a0\u00a0I assume that parts or maybe all of it are from teachings I’ve heard or read from you, but just like in previous experiences I had had, this time, too, it was as if the Spirit was revealing things to me personally, so now they felt much more than just information. Then I forgot about it, but today, as I was on my knees praising God and praying to Him, the same thoughts started coming to me again, so I would like to share with you what, I believe, Jesus spoke to me.<\/span><\/p>\n

The doctrine of the Trinity, at least the version (or versions) I’m most familiar with, says that Jesus is equal with God.\u00a0\u00a0Basically, what it says is that the Son is the same God as the Father is, only in a different person — whatever that means.\u00a0\u00a0Another explanation I’ve heard a number of times is that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are different expressions or different forms of existence of the same God.\u00a0\u00a0Whichever theory one prefers, the notion that there is no sense of superiority-inferiority between the Father and the Son seems to be the common ground between them all.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

One of the scriptures I was reminded of during my experience was a well-known one from Isaiah 14 where Satan’s heart, his motivation,\u00a0is revealed.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0He says there: “I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High,” which shows that wanting to be like God (not in his nature, but in his status or position) is a satanic desire, and\u00a0that\u00a0is very much in harmony with what the doctrine of the Trinity suggests.\u00a0\u00a0Then I was thinking of\u00a0our<\/u>\u00a0Jesus, how he saw himself in relation to the Father; i.e. ” The Father is greater than I”, or “Why do you call me good? No one is good but one, that is, God.”\u00a0\u00a0And then, today I remembered the verse in Philippians, more specifically the PJV translation*, which gives a very different meaning to it compared to the traditional translations.\u00a0\u00a0It says in Philippians\u00a02:6,\u00a0“[Christ Jesus], although existing in the form of God, did not consider equality with God as something to be grasped after.<\/span><\/p>\n

Now, using the same wording, based on Isaiah 14, Satan considered “equality with God” very much “as something to be grasped after”.\u00a0\u00a0And he still does, and it seems that through the doctrine of the Trinity he has achieved some partial success because many of God’s children do believe that Jesus is the “second person of the Trinity”, that is, they believe that Jesus is equal with God —\u00a0in a way that is contrary to the truth, contrary to the very words of the Savior himself.\u00a0\u00a0What, I believe, God spoke to me is that the Jesus of the “Trinity” is, in reality, Satan himself.\u00a0\u00a0Satan doesn’t deny that there is one God and that He must be worshipped (James 2:19); but through the doctrine of the Trinity he found a way to lure God’s people into lifting up someone else (him!) to the same heights as where God is.\u00a0\u00a0They can even call that other person “Jesus”, but they don’t realize that it is “another Jesus”, “another spirit”, thus, at the end of the day, it is altogether “another gospel”.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

God,\u00a0help us walk worthy of the grace that we’ve been shown.\u00a0\u00a0Help us to not only understand the truth, but also to love it, and to live it.\u00a0\u00a0Help us to love one another, and to love our brothers and sisters the way You love them – wherever they are, whatever they believe.\u00a0\u00a0Teach us to speak the truth in love and in the wisdom of Your spirit.<\/span><\/p>\n

Zoli<\/span><\/p>\n

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Hi Zoli.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Yes, what you have seen from the Lord is true.\u00a0 In the hearts of men who believe the doctrine of the Trinity, Satan has accomplished his ancient purpose of being like God \u2013 at least, in their minds.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Christianity began as a political religion based on the doctrine of the Trinity.\u00a0 It is the foundation of that religious system, and if that doctrine falls and the truth becomes known, Christianity will fall with it.\u00a0 May God hasten the day, and set His precious people free from that prison, the “dwelling place of demons, and a prison for every unclean spirit, and a prison for every unclean and loathsome bird!\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Thank you for writing.\u00a0 It is always good to hear about it when the Lord gets truth into a heart.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Pastor John<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

*\u00a0 Going to Jesus.com – Bible Translations<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Dear Pastor John, About a week ago, I can’t remember the exact setting, but I started having thoughts coming to me about the “Trinity”.\u00a0\u00a0I assume that parts or maybe all of it are from teachings I’ve heard or read from you, but just like in previous experiences I had had, this time, too, it was […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14230","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-netmail"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14230"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=14230"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14230\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=14230"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=14230"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=14230"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}