{"id":3150,"date":"2013-05-23T17:03:13","date_gmt":"2013-05-23T17:03:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pjhmail.wordpress.com\/?p=3150"},"modified":"2013-05-23T17:03:13","modified_gmt":"2013-05-23T17:03:13","slug":"chapter-6-of-the-father-and-son-book","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/3150\/chapter-6-of-the-father-and-son-book\/","title":{"rendered":"Chapter 6 of the Father and Son book"},"content":{"rendered":"

Pastor John,<\/span><\/p>\n

Judy and I read the first part of Chapter Six, last night. The reading is becoming easier to read, or maybe it’s my understanding of what is being written.<\/span><\/p>\n

One of my favorite parts is when you are explaining the articles, “a” and “the”, such as with the Centurion, when you are describing a son as compared to the Son, and how it has been mistranslated on purpose to support a false doctrine like the Trinity doctrine (watched the Trinity study you did from TN on youtube; exciting because I understood what you were talking about).<\/span><\/p>\n

While we were reading how parents were sacrificing their sons with fire to Baal on page 8, using the Jeremiah 19. I had a thought, “It is still being done today”. I asked myself, “how”. I felt in my heart say, “By a baptism other than Jesus’ baptism.”<\/span><\/p>\n

Catholicism requires one to be baptized into their doctrine of form and bondage. I feel it’s no different than sacrificing a son to Baal. And, when Henry the 8th broke away from Catholicism and started the church of England (to fulfill his lust), one must be baptized into the church of England, to show his allegiance. From there, great massacres started by one side killing the other side to prove their side was the right side. In this modern age, it’s illegal to kill as they did back then, so now the great whore’s daughters (Protestant denominations) started to arise everywhere throughout the world, and most if not all required a baptism in water (a sacrifice to a modern day Baal), especially when their children reached the age at which their doctrine required it.<\/span><\/p>\n

I wonder how Jesus feels, and especially his Father who gave Him, every time a baptism is done that is not His, or any other means of worship that is not sanctified by the Spirit; I know it hurts us seeing or watching it on TV.<\/span><\/p>\n

We are so blessed to be given the task of getting truth such as this book for God’s people on the Father and the Son. If just one of God’s children can understand what God has given you and puts it into practice, then it’s one less sacrifice to Baal or one of the other demons.<\/span><\/p>\n

We really appreciate you sending this out. When we’re reading things like this, it feels as though we are with you at the beach.<\/span><\/p>\n

Billy M.<\/span><\/p>\n

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Hey John,<\/span><\/p>\n

We enjoyed reading the chapter six section of the Father and Son book this evening. Your Rebekah will be armed with some questions for you over the weekend, things we talked about but did not know the answer to. We got together with Amy F., Tom and Suzi, Rebekah and Ellen, and LeeAnn and Ben, and enjoyed our time reading.<\/span><\/p>\n

A couple things I wondered about after reading about the section on the willing sacrifice…. When a person had to offer their animal they were required to lay their hands on the animal’s head prior to killing them (I’m assuming for transference of sin, etc.). I was wondering when the Father did that to Jesus, and how. Was it before Jesus was killed, or sometime afterwards but before he offered himself to the Father.<\/span><\/p>\n

There were a lot of good thoughts in this section… it really sends the wheels to turning.<\/span><\/p>\n

Another question was this: before creation, Jesus was in a body, correct? And when he was glorified after his resurrection, was his glorified body a NEW body, or the same body he had before? And if a new body, what happened to the first body he posessed?<\/span><\/p>\n

Then, with us, we will get a NEW body, but I suppose that is where we differ from Jesus – we were not sons as Jesus was with a body previously… All that gets a little sketchy. But I’m sure there are some good things in all that.<\/span><\/p>\n

Who among God’s people is being given the good things we are? We should be SO thankful John.<\/span><\/p>\n

Talk to you soon,<\/span>
\nGary<\/span>
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Pastor John,<\/span><\/p>\n

It felt very good reading this section of the Father and Son book. I felt blessed reading through it. Good!!!<\/span>
\nI liked the footnote on page 4 with the word since<\/strong> instead of if.<\/strong><\/span>
\nAlso the part where you wrote about how much of what humans think is impossible is the norm in heaven.<\/span><\/p>\n

Are you going to have in the next section about when Abraham was going to sacrifice Issac, how it would have made God jealous?<\/span>
\nI still marvel at that sight, how confident Abraham was in knowing without a shadow of doubt that God told him to do that. Then, how he made no excuses for what he heard, and what he wanted for himself, being the father of that young boy.<\/span><\/p>\n

Thanks!!!<\/span>
\nPaul<\/span>
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We just finished reading it, and again…wonderful! Thank you \ud83d\ude42<\/span><\/p>\n

There was one more thing I saw in the paragraph halfway through that begins with “As miraculous as…”, half through that paragraph there is an “and” that I don’t think should be there…the sentence, “and contrary to Church mythology, AND the pre-baptism Jesus”.<\/span><\/p>\n

Leah<\/span>
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Thanks, Leah. Every correction like that is valuable.<\/span><\/em>
\n jdc<\/span><\/em>
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Hey Pastor John,<\/span><\/p>\n

I like this paragraph that you added:<\/span><\/p>\n

Abraham was willing to obey God and offer up his son Isaac, but Abraham was not making a sacrifice for sin. He didn\u2019t know why God commanded him to sacrifice Isaac; he just knew that God told him to do it. Only after God\u2019s angel stopped him from killing his son did Abraham learn that it was just a test of his faith…”<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

When I read it what I thought was, not only was God willing to give up His son as a sacrifice for our sins but His sacrifice was willing to be given up!<\/span><\/p>\n

Not so sure Isaac would have willingly died as “his” father’s sacrifice just because God required it as a test of Abraham’s faith. That would have also been a test of Isaac’s faith!!<\/span><\/p>\n

Gary’s song “Ask of Me” comes to mind… [Jesus talking] “I didn’t have to wonder what I’d say or do. I knew I’d ask my Father for you.”<\/span><\/p>\n

This is soooo good! Thank you for sending this for us to read. I love it more and more!<\/span><\/p>\n

Amy F<\/span>
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Pastor John,<\/span><\/p>\n

This was good reading tonight.<\/span><\/p>\n

I believe the verses on page 5 about the demons cried out (Mk 3:19; Lk 4:29) aren’t the right one’s- maybe it could be Matthew 8:29? Also the Hannah reference of (2Sam 1:1-2; 2:7) on page 6 I believe should be referencing different scriptures.<\/span><\/p>\n

Thank you for sending this- have a goodnight!<\/span><\/p>\n

Rebekah Embry<\/span>
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Thank you, Rebekah! I will check them out.<\/span><\/em>
\n jdc<\/span><\/em>
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Hi Pastor John<\/span><\/p>\n

If there were typos in what we read tonight for Chapter 6 we missed them because the reading was so good that we completely forgot to look for them.<\/span><\/p>\n

In the section “A Man In Appearance” we love the part where you describe how the Son of God made his appearance as a man, not as an infant in a manger, and certainly not as an embryo in Mary’s womb. That section is sooo clear and easy to understand! Don’t change it!!! In the section on “The Virgin Birth” we were so glad Gary asked the question of why did it have to be a virgin birth and God gave you the answer. We doubt that anyone else knows and understands this. Now God is making a way for others to understand. These were just a couple of sections that stood out to us. Everything we read tonight from Chapter 6 was very good to us.<\/span><\/p>\n

We are praying that God continues to give you what is needed to finish the book.<\/span><\/p>\n

Love you,<\/span><\/p>\n

Randell and Doris<\/span>
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Hey there,<\/span><\/p>\n

The reading was so good. Joel and I read it together as we waited on Rob to come in from the airport (he had already read it on the plane!), and it was the sweetest feeling spending time together reading this chapter. Thank you for all your work and effort. it is a beautiful story of God and his love for us. I especially liked the part towards the end about the sacrifice being God’s own son. When I asked Joel what stood out to him, he brought that section up, also.<\/span><\/p>\n

Hope to see more of your writing soon, and I hope you and Barbara are having a very good trip.<\/span><\/p>\n

Donna<\/span><\/p>\n

Here are a couple of corrections\/comments:<\/span>
\n1) In the paragraph which starts “As miraculous as Jesus’ birth had been . . .” there is an extra word in the fourth line after the word “mythology”.<\/span>
\n2) page 6: just before the Mark 14:32-39 scriptures…”to do it to him” seemed a little vague. Is there a way to make it clearer?<\/span>
\n3) The last paragraph didn’t seem to flow or end the section somehow.<\/span>
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Thanks, Donna. I will look at all that.<\/span><\/em>
\n jdc<\/span><\/em>
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I like the last 2 sections much better tonight. The Owner, Willingly had a much better flow of thought \ud83d\ude42 Michelle & I took turns reading together. It was sweet– Thanks for sending out.<\/span><\/p>\n

I did have one comment, on pg3 in the 2nd paragraph from the bottom….<\/span>
\nNo halo encircled his head; his hometown was insignificant; his parents were nobodies; and contrary to Church mythology, and the pre-baptism Jesus performed no miracles and had no special knowledge of God, though he certainly loved Him, even as a child.<\/span><\/p>\n

Okay.<\/span><\/p>\n

Amanda<\/span>
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Yes, it seems that a bunch of people caught that mistake. Thanks for the feedback! It helps.<\/span><\/em>
\n jdc<\/span><\/em>
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John, this Chapter 6 is so good. I will have to read it two or three times. On page 7, had to stop and take in the feeling at the beginning of that page. Just feel thankful to hear these words of life. The Lamb which God sacrificed for the world BELONGED TO HIM!<\/span><\/p>\n

Junior E<\/span>
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We really enjoyed reading Chapter\u00a06 tonight at our house. It was great to see Jonathan starting to have glimpses of God’s Son and Mary’s son coming together at the Jordan River to make the new man:) It felt so good reading and stopping and looking up scriptures and discussing what you had written. We took our time, and it was wonderful! So thankful you sent this out for us all. And we loved the pictures of the sunrise and sunset.<\/span><\/p>\n

G’nite \ud83d\ude42<\/span>
\nBess<\/span>
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Those new sections in chapter 6 are really good.<\/span><\/p>\n

Julie P<\/span>
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Just got through reading! We are so blessed to know what we know !<\/span>
\nJammie C<\/span>
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That’s beautiful! We just finished reading chapter 6, Part 1… Good good feelings about God’s sacrifice… Really like the new sections!<\/span>
\nBy the way I noticed the translation you ended up going with for Psalm 113:9. Did you not want to translate that a little differently?<\/span><\/p>\n

Aaron<\/span>
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We can change the words a little, but the meaning that comes through as it is will not change. I will probably keep what we have now, but I will look at it again. Thanks.<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

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