{"id":420,"date":"2009-07-23T15:24:35","date_gmt":"2009-07-23T19:24:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/Correspondence\/?p=420"},"modified":"2009-07-23T15:24:35","modified_gmt":"2009-07-23T19:24:35","slug":"the-very-very-very-beginning-really","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/pastorjohnshouse.com\/mailbag\/420\/the-very-very-very-beginning-really\/","title":{"rendered":"The very, very, very, beginning. really."},"content":{"rendered":"

I have a new question that was asked me by a Xn with whom I was discussing the Trinity, and I mentioned your book on the Father & Son.<\/span><\/p>\n

If Jesus, the Son, is God’s creation, how could he have been “with God,” from the very, very beginning? If the Word (the Son) existed from the “beginning,” does that not imply a co-eternal existence—the same as God, the Father?<\/span><\/p>\n

Brad<\/span><\/p>\n

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Hi Brad:<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

The Son of God not only was with the Father in the “very, very beginning”; he was the very, very beginning of the creation of God. He himself said so (Rev. 3:14). Does your friend not know that God had no beginning? The Father existed before the beginning; that is He existed before the Beginning (the Son) was created. No matter how many “very’s” one puts in front of “beginning”, that still holds true.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Christians condemned a man named Arius many years ago for teaching this truth. One of the famous lines from Arius about the Son is this: “There was when he was not.”<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Pastor John<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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Ahhhh. . . thank you very much. That explains it quite succinctly. :^) Praise God for this truth!!!! This very, very good truth!<\/span><\/p>\n

Brad<\/span>
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Ha! Amen.
\nI mean, very, very, very Amen!<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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