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  • “Church” from Two Different Greek Words

    John,

    Good Morning.

    Regarding your comment: “The word ‘church’ is used in the New Testament books 114 times (KJV).  It should not be there at all.”

    I took my concordance out and counted.  There are 114 uses of the word “church” in the King James Bible from the Greek word: ekklesia.  And once, “church” is used (in Acts 19:37), but that comes from a different Greek word, which would make the count 115.  It seems that the translators were compelled to translate both words incorrectly?

    I remember you talking about this years ago and how important this is, because it trains a person to misunderstand what is actually being communicated in the Scriptures.

    It is incredible that such a blatant mistranslation is never mentioned by anyone I have met in Christianity, and when I have mentioned it in conversations, I would get, for lack of a better way to describe it, a deer in headlights look, or just no interest at all.

    Thanks For All The Hard Work,

    Wendell

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    Hi Wendell.

    In Acts 19:37, the Greek word there means “temple-robbers”, and so, in that case, “church” is an acceptable translation, for a temple (or mosque, etc.) is a church.

    Yes, Christian translators do seem compelled by their faith to mistranslate ekklesia as “church”, and it is astonishing how many people accept that translation without questioning why.  But then, as in all things, if God does not open our eyes to His truth, we have no choice but to remain blind.  Let’s keep praying that God will deliver His precious people from church religion, and make us all one in His Son!

    Pastor John

  • “Jesus Is a Cult Leader” (see post 7/17/2023)

    From Allison:

    What jumped off the page for me was that the definition of a cult always includes the phrase “deviant outside the norms of society” and what we see throughout history is that when the “norms of society” become deviant, the “cult” actually becomes the thing to be!

  • The Old Testament Is Worth Knowing

    Good morning Pastor John, 

    I have been diligently seeking God and listening for His Word recently.  When I turn on a tv program just to veg-out I find myself unhappy with anything on so I end up on YouTube watching the Mathew study.  I finally finished God Had a Son before Mary Did book*.  What a blessing!  I feel like I need to read it again many times, like Brother Jimmy and The Jerusalem Council book**.  But there are so many more that I need to read.  While reading your book, Suffering and the Saints book*** for my Old Testament  study class**** this weekend, I kept thinking, I know I have read this a couple of times before but it seems so much richer now!  The Spirit said, “It’s because you know the people and stories that the Bible is speaking about.”  How true and how BIG a blessing it is to have a grasp of the stories and lessons contained in the Old Testament!  All those years of hearing that the Old Testament is not for our time were a lie to enable us to better be controlled by the spirit of Christianity.  Without that knowledge, I was able to believe what they taught. 

    As I read about Josiah learning of God’s word, I was thinking about how these things actually happened to me!  “You shall betrothed a wife, and another man shall lie with her.  You shall build a house, and you shall not dwell in it.  You shall plant a vineyard [mine was actually blackberries] and shall not gather the grapes thereof.  The LORD shall smite you” –– mine was heart surgery, bleeding bowels, etc.  But He actually did these things to me.  As I realized this, I started thanking God that He didn’t leave me in my own filth.  Everything I thought I had lost was a big blessing.  I would have stayed in that place if He had given me what I thought I wanted!  I even started singing “Hallelujah” over and over until I felt His Spirit running up and down my body.  I am so grateful for the Old Testament study online and for the saints who are letting me participate with them in their Old Testament class!  And thank you for faithfully conveying the Word of God to us!  I want to want what God wants me to have!

    Your servant,

    Mark W. 

         *  Going to Jesus.com – God Had A Son Before Mary Did

        **  Going to Jesus.com – The Jerusalem Council

       ***  Going to Jesus.com – Suffering and the Saints

      ****  Old Testament Course (Pt. 1) – Going to Jesus.com

  • Watch “The Holy Ghost: Your Certificate of Repentance – John D. Clark, Sr.” on YouTube

    https://youtu.be/Ls4NqZzfydY

    This is so good! red heart

    I watched this, and it made me want every hungry heart to hear it.  And the ones that aren’t hungry too; maybe it will stir something up in them! 

    I thought about how Jesus let me watch him fill Jerry’s mama with His spirit.  We were not praying for him to do that, we didn’t need to.  All I said was, “Pastor John would tell you if you are not satisfied; just keep going.”  And then Jesus came through that room and left us knowing that her heart wanted more!  Jesus gave her a receipt!

    I can’t wait to meet Peter and talk about how amazing it is to see Jesus fill somebody up!  I am still in awe! 

    Beth D.

  • Josiah & Jeremiah

    I’ve really been touched reading and translating recently, and wanted to share some of the things that have really touched me.

    I’ve been translating in Jeremiah 39 and 40, and I’ve seen the time after Judah has been carried into captivity and Nebuchadnezzar put Gedaliah ben-Ahikam son of Shaphan in charge of the remnant of Judah.  It seems that Jeremiah, now an older man, found some sort of refuge with Gedaliah for a time after he was given the option to stay in Israel by Nebuchadnezzar.  But before long, Gedaliah was assassinated by one of the captains of Israel’s remaining armies in the land.  He had a warning from the other captains that Ishmael was sent to kill him, but he wouldn’t hear it.  Jeremiah’s life was thrown into tumult again.  This made me hurt so bad for Jeremiah and Judah as a whole.  It could have been such a good peaceful time in the land.

    As we’re working our way towards the end of the Old Testament course*, we’re reading now in the Suffering and the Saints book**, in the Fall of Judah section.  I fully recommend reading at least this section of the book.

    I’ve just been sitting here crying, reading as Josiah and Jeremiah work so hard to purge Judah after 50+ years of sin and wickedness.  Then Hilkiah the High Priest found a book and gave it to Shaphan.  He brought it to Josiah, and gave it to him after all the “important” stuff was out of the way.  That scene, with Josiah sitting there listening as that book was read, and what he must have been feeling… wow.

    But also, it struck me that Gedaliah’s grandfather and father (Shaphan and Ahikam) had been with Josiah at the time the book of the Law was found and read.  Jeremiah had a long history with Gedaliah’s whole family throughout Josiah’s reign and the captivity of Judah, just to see him killed by fellow Israelites.

    Just feeling very sober.  When I see Jeremiah’s life towards the end, and where Judah was, and then read where he started with Josiah, it just breaks my heart for him.

    Like John David’s audio clip he sent out earlier this week, Jesus, help us love and value goodness, and peace, and the people in our lives!  It doesn’t have to be this way for long.  Things can change so quickly.

    Aaron

    Old Testament Course (Pt. 1) – Going to Jesus.com

    **  Going to Jesus.com – Suffering and the Saints

  • Tongues Will Cease

    Morning!

    I have been proofing the Sound of the Spirit book to prepare it for the printer, when I was reading yesterday, I came across this paragraph and it really struck me.  Here is the paragraph:     

    As long as there is hope for unbelievers, there will be a need for the Spirit’s sound at Spirit baptism.  It is only when “that which is perfect is come” and the Final Judgment on mankind has been made that the Spirit’s sound will cease (cf. 1Cor. 13:8–10).  No one at that time will need a witness from God to let him know who is a believer, for believers will be the only ones left standing.  But as yet, there remains a need for God to help the thirsty to find the waters of life.

    And here is 1Corinthians 13:8

    1. Love never fails. But whether there be prophecies, they will come to an end; or tongues, they will cease; or knowledge, it will pass away.
    2. For we know in part, and we prophesy in part,
    3. but when that which is perfect comes, that which is in part shall be done away.

    I love it when things like this happen. I have read this and known it but it just clicked with me yesterday that our tongues will cease and there will be no need for it because we all will speaking the same language, maybe a new language, or no language.  But at that point, there will be no need for that sound or tongue because we will all be believers.  What a neat thought.

    Jesus really meant what he said when he said these things will come to an end, as we know it.  Love that!

    Amy B.

  • God’s Mercy

    I loved when you talked about God’s mercy and how it changed David.  It was God’s tender mercy that I fell in love with and that carried me here. And now I carry it in my heart for others.  I read this in Psalms this morning and was just in awe because David did not know what he was really saying, but all these years later, I know.  We know!  All these years later, and we are living examples of what David poured out to God that day. 

    Psalm 51

    1. I will teach transgressors your ways, and sinners will turn back to you.
    2. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit. A broken and crushed heart, O God, you will not despise.

    God’s mercy changes everything! 

    Beth D.

  • Jesus Loves Me This I Know

    Oh, Pastor John, so much goodness came from this morning’s reading Brad and I had that I am compelled to write you about it.

    Of course, Song’s trial and now news of Doris’ mass as well as the trials gone through by other members of the body, have been on our heart.

    Brad and I read nearly every morning and have wonderful fellowship from our morning time together. Today, the Spirit led Brad to read Looking at the Same Thing – a Thought for the Evening for 12-21.* What we felt from that Thought for the Evening was that cancer is a giant like the giants Joshua and Caleb saw in Canaan’s land. And, like Preacher Clark said, it’s all how you look at the giants that determine how you react to them. As it says in the Thought, “If God is bigger in your eyes than the giants of this life, then when you see those giants, you feel different from the way others feel…”

    We can/do look at the giants in our life, like cancer, differently. Gary’s response, and most likely Song’s response, is a clear demonstration of looking at the giant differently. Living through the giant that Sister Natalie faced allowed me to see and feel how God is bigger than what she faced. Both clearly demonstrate speaking about the “wondrous works of God” coming from facing their giant. And, Sister Lou’s giant nearly took her down but, with Jesus’ wonderful intervention, allowed her, and us, to see how bitterness and complaining can be replaced with His glory and truth of everlasting life!!!

    If this wasn’t enough goodness of God, for our Old Testament class** we are reading Suffering and the Saints*** and today, Brad and I finished reading Chapter 7 – The Divided Kingdom – The Fall of Israel – and the Spirit fell on us and I can hardly put into words all that was felt and said during the fellowship that ensued. But, I will try because it was THAT GOOD

    1. God and His Son love us so much that they both provide continual opportunities to receive correction. All we have to do is heed that correction. And, by correction, He means for the Body, not the individual who is suffering the affliction. This isn’t about or for only the member of the Body suffering from the affliction, it is, as Brother Billy M. and as Brother John David testified, for the Body! The trials of individual members are for us to grow as a body not only the individual being afflicted.
    2. This “for the Body” knowing let me see for the first time, that my mother’s constant thankfulness for God – the only words she spoke were “Thank you God for everything” during the last visits we had with her – was for ME. It wasn’t a commentary on her state. It was Jesus’ love for me, His child. It gave me peace to hear those words. It comforted me. It blessed me and Brad. Praise God!

    There was more –  but it suffices to say that the glory of God was in our house this morning and it was GOOD!!!! Thank you God for this Life! Thank you God for this Family! 

    With a full and desiring heart,

    Allison

    Going to Jesus.com – Looking At The Same Thing

    ** Old Testament Course (Pt. 1) – Going to Jesus.com

    *** Going to Jesus.com – Suffering and the Saints

  • The ‘Antichrist’ Gospel Tract

    Dear Pastor John,

    I hope you and Barbara are doing well.

    The reason I’m writing to you is that I am right now translating the “Antichrist” gospel tract*, and there is one detail about it that is a bit confusing to me.

    In 1John 4:1-3, the apostle John talks about spirits (not people) which, when received, do not confess that Jesus Christ has come into the fleshly temple of that person.  So we know that when someone “receives Jesus” by accepting some version of the gospel, and does not manifest the sign of the Spirit’s sound, that person actually has received the spirit of antichrist, not the holy Ghost. 

    Now, in the book of 2John, it would first seem that the apostle talks about the same phenomena when he says in verse 7: “For many deceivers are gone out into the world, those who do not confess Jesus Christ when he comes into a person”.  But in the tract, after quoting this verse from 2John, you and Preacher Clark wrote this: “Yes, these deceivers departed from the faith, and, as John testified, they “went out” from the apostles’ fellowship into the world, declaring a perverted gospel (1Jn. 2:19).”  So, it seems from the wording as if the deceivers apostle John talks about here are not spirits, but more like men, teachers who went out from among them and were preaching a different (perverted) gospel.  But if that is the case, if the “deceivers” of 2John 7 are not spirits that are capable of entering human bodies, but people, then the idea of “not confessing Jesus Christ when he comes into a person” doesn’t seem to make sense, at least not the way it does in 1John 4:1-3. 

    My question is: Does the apostle John talk about two different things in his first and in his second epistle?  And if he does, and in 2John 7 he doesn’t talk about spirits, but about people, then what does the line “who do not confess Jesus Christ when he comes into a person” mean in that context?  Did these men not speak in tongues themselves when they received whatever “gospel” it was that they heard?  Or does it refer to something they do, or don’t do when someone else “comes to faith” through their ministry?  Or am I completely off track in my thought process? : )

    I hope I was able to make my question clear.

    I wish you well, Pastor John.

    Zoli

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    Hi Zoli.

    As usual, your question is a very good one that needs to be explained.

    In 1John 4:1–3, John is indeed talking about a spirit that people receive which does not produce the sound that Jesus said would always accompany the new birth (Jn. 3:8).  In 2John 7, John is talking about men who have received that evil spirit and have given themselves to it, and who proclaim it as being the Spirit of God.  That is the “perverted gospel” they preach.  These are Christian ministers who tell people they can receive the Spirit of God without it confessing Christ through them the way that Jesus said it would always do.  They are the “deceivers and the anti-Christs” of 1John 2:18 and 2John 2:7. They themselves have taken in the speechless spirit of anti-Christ, and they say that spirit is the Spirit of God.

    By receiving the spirit of anti-Christ, men themselves become anti-Christs.  And by promoting the spirit of anti-Christ as being the Spirit of Christ, such men may have thousands of converts to what they are saying, but no converts to God.  There are many such Christian “ministries” in the world today, the work of men who themselves have not confessed Christ when he comes into a person, and are being followed by multitudes who also do not confess Christ when he comes into a person.

    The way I read 2John 2:7 is that John is only speaking of the many men of his time, through whom the Spirit of Christ has never spoken and, so, do not have the real Spirit of God, yet have gone out as ministers of Christ.  It is not that those ministers can physically enter into people, but their doctrine and their spirit can.  This is how the spirit of anti-Christ always enters into people.  When they are persuaded to believe that the Spirit of Christ does not speak through people when it comes in, they open their hearts to receive the spirit that does not speak.  And when they do that, they also receive into their hearts the ministers who taught them that lie, and the father of lies himself.  We really cannot separate the man from his message.

    Pastor John

    * https://goingtojesus.com/gtj_tracts.html?tname=tract-087-antichrist

  • Never Seen Again!

    Pastor John,

    I’m listening to an Old Testament* cd, and you were talking about David being changed into a mystery man, a stranger to everyone, even himself, by the great mercy he was shown by God after his sin with Bathsheba.  You said he was like Moses and “no one ever saw Moses again after he came down from that mountain and his face shined after seeing the back part of God.”  And then you said that no one ever saw (the old) David again after Nathan delivered God’s incredible message to him!

    Thats so good!  No one ever has to see our old man again after we meet Jesus! 

    Beth

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    Amen, Beth!

    The Spirit makes us new creatures when we receive it, and if we stay alive in the Spirit, that “old man” which was once us will stay dead and gone!  Nobody will ever see him again.  Praise God for that!

    Pastor John

    Old Testament Course (Pt. 1) – Going to Jesus.com

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