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  • Today’s Meeting

    Pastor John,

    What an experience in Jesus today.

    There were so many things. I wrote down two (make that three) as quick as I could – they were so good!  (I am paraphrasing):

    (1) What Gary said, “it (Christianity) isn’t a big thing because of the devil, or because of Christianity’s so-called power; it is held up because God’s people have lost their way.”

    Wow! So good.

    (2) Listening to Damien, you, and others: “Jesus is understanding. Many scholars have all the facts, but they have no ‘Understanding’.”

    We can add to that, that some of the greatest saints we have known or heard of, were full of Understanding, but they had none of the facts 🙂

    So much better to have Understanding!

    (3) “Hide in Jesus’ strength.” ~John Jr.

    Wonderful!

    So good today. We loved it!

    Jerry

  • Last Night

    Pastor John,

    Last night was so good!  I felt the love of God in what you we’re sharing with us. To be rid of Christianity because it’s nothing; it’s the biggest lie ever told.  Wow!  To be free of its influence – I pray that for us and for all God’s children.

    I loved listening to “The Book of Hebrews”* last night!  The joy of the Lord flooded my soul!  I came home and started reading Hebrews!  It IS full of good news!  Jesus, the real Jesus!  Our hero, our Savior, our best friend.  I fell asleep happy, so thankful for his mercy for calling us out and giving us life!

    Thank you, Pastor John!

    Michelle

    *   (19) The Book of Hebrews – YouTube

  • Mathew 24:14

    Hi, Pastor John.

    It was a wonderful message educating us on when Christianity began and the laws from it given through the centuries Saturday night. I was reading Matthew 24 this morning when Jesus was telling his disciples about the signs of the end of the world, when I came upon vs. 14: “And this Gospel shall be preached in all the earth for a witness to all nations, and then the end shall be.”

    I thought about the (true) Gospel of Christ, Paul’s Gospel, and I thought, “The “true” Gospel of Paul is not being preached around the world, even though I would imagine, that hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of missionaries, priests, and explorations around the world throughout the centuries by Christianity’s ministers have spread their gospel and influence.  But in fact, they are spreading lies about a false christ and gospel.  It isn’t the Gospel of Christ as Paul preached that that abomination is spreading.

    I feel when the true Gospel is preached around the world, the end will surely come.  In this day and age with the internet, one person (possibly) could be spreading the Gospel around the entire world by himself.  I humbly pray and know that we have a part in spreading that true Gospel; we have seen the results (in a small way) with precious souls like, Darren, Gary, Leika, Damien, Jenny and others that have been reached through the Gospel that you have preached from your websites and found us.  It is no small thing.  I hope there are more like you and our websites that are truly spreading Paul’s Gospel of Christ.  I surely would like to meet at least one of them.  If not, I am grateful and thankful that we here have headed to the call.

    Love always,

    Billy

  • 4th Century Christianity

    John,

    Thank you for sending the link to “4th Century Christianity”. The history of Christianity is astonishing.

    After hearing tonight the thoughts Jesus has given you recently about churches, Constantine and Christianity, and then to read what Paul saw and wrote in 2Corinthians 11 about another Jesus, another spirit, another gospel, the Truth shines even brighter.  And in 2Thessalonians 2 Paul said the mystery of iniquity was already at work in his day and time. What a warning from Jesus through him to the body! God does not want his children to be ignorant or deceived. His love for us came alive even more as I read these scriptures tonight.

    Jesus has put it in our hearts by way of his Spirit to love of the Truth if we will stay full of his Spirit.  As we love it, it is saving us. He said it would. It is so precious. I feel overwhelmed with gratefulness to Jesus.

    Bess

    *(If you want to see Rome’s laws (from Constantine’s time forward) here:

    https://www.fourthcentury.com/

    and scroll down to:

    Imperial Laws and Letters Involving Religion

  • Whew, Hearing This Tonight Was Wonderful.

    Whew, hearing this tonight was wonderful.

    Brother Gary’s song about the people not knowing and you talking about them being afraid to think the next thought, that it would be blasphemy, is so true! That’s exactly what I experienced. That was instilled in us from early on.

    Thinking anything other than Catholicism is right was enough to go to hell. They instill that from the very beginning, and it does it job. What an evil set-up it is!  If you can never have a thought that differs from what they are telling you, you are stuck, silent and afraid in that mess.  It is only God’s mercy to get out of that spider’s web.

    I thought tonight that anything that tells you not to go to you, Pastor John, or not to ask a question, or not to testify, or to sit quiet when Jesus is moving, is that same demon – or a real good friend to it.

    Every time we hear the truth, it does something.  Every time.  Cleaning out the dross!

    And what a song to dream!  “The book of Hebrews is full of good news!”*  I wish I could have been there in that dream watching you sing with that choir.

    Felt your prayers tonight.  Went back again just to hear you call out to God for us.

    So good!
    Beth Durham   

    *  (19) The Book of Hebrews – YouTube

  • The World in Man’s Heart

    Tonight, I read from Ecclesiastes 3:10–11, “I have seen the busyness that God has given to the sons of man to keep busy with.  He has made everything beautiful in its time.  He has also put the world in their heart, so that man cannot discover what God has done from beginning to end.”

    That is really something to read and to know He has taken the world OUT of our hearts.  He lets us know His story!  It touched me to read that!

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    Yes, Beth.

    The world is in everyone’s heart until Christ circumcises the world from our hearts by the Spirit.  That is something to be very thankful for!

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    What does the word “Ecclesiastes” mean?  Does it mean something, or was it just another name for Solomon?
    Beth D.
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    The word “Ecclesiastes” comes from the Hebrew word, “Qoheleth”.  Some actually use that name for the book instead of Ecclesiastes.  It apparently means something like “a gatherer of the Assembly” or “one who speaks to the Assembly”.  “The preacher (or pastor)” is another option.  If we choose that translation, the King James Version may have it right: The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.”
    We chose, at least for now, to translate that first verses of the book like this:
     
    1. The words of Ecclesiastes, son of David, king in Jerusalem.
    2. Vanity of vanities, says Ecclesiastes.  Vanity of vanities!  All is vanity!
    Thank you for the question.

    Pastor John

  • Old Meeting Notes #10

    So many good things to think on!  I had to read these Old Meeting notes twice and pray they would sink in. So good!

    Thanks,

    Paul Curtsinger

    10 – 1969 Gary’s CD 18, Part 2

  • Fallen Angels

    John,

    When Jonathan asked the question (below), I don’t think I ever put 2 and 2 together like I did reading this.

    And are they all still alive today and all the same demons?

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    Yes, and yes.

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    It makes sense now that when someone contacts the spirit world to get in touch with great-grandma whoever, that the person contacting the other world can answer questions that only family members know!  The spirits or demons that they are listening to have been here from day one. 

    Steve

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    That’s right, Steve.  It isn’t the dear, departed grandma that is saying those things; it is a demon claiming to be grandma.  Solomon said that the dead do not know anything under the sun.  They have no part with this life any longer.

    Pastor John 

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    Evening Pastor John,

    With the angels who forsook their heavenly bodies to trade for human bodies, were they the first demons in God’s creation?

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    Yes.

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    Are demons all former fallen angels?

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    Yes.

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    Prior to them forsaking their heavenly bodies, were there no demons?

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    No, there were none.  But remember, (1) angels committed that sin very early in world history and (2) humans had fallen into sin even before the angels did that.  Men do not need Satan or his angels in order to sin.

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    And are they all still alive today and all the same demons? 

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    Yes, and yes.

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    If so, does this mean that since heaven has been purged by God, when he cast Satan out, that no new demons or evil spirits can be made? 

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    All things are possible, but if there are others added, or will be others, we are not told about it.  At the same time, we must admit that it is certainly possible that along the way in human history, more and more angels could have sinned like that. 

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    Are evil/bad spirits much different from demons?

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    There is no difference.  But, again, remember that humans have their own evil/bad spirits apart from the evil spirits of fallen angels.

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    Are we all today still dealing with the original fallen angels?

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    Yes.

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    Much obliged,

    Jonathan S.

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    Good questions, all, Jonathan.  Thank you for asking.

    Pastor John

  • Evil Spirits before Satan Was Cast Out

    Hi John,

    I was listening to the audio Bible book of Luke on the way to work this morning, and when it came to Luke 11:14, when Jesus cast out the dumb spirit, it struck me that there were demons and other unclean spirits while Jesus was here on earth.  This would have been before Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven in Revelation 12:9.  So my question is, could the evil spirits spoken of before Satan was cast out be angels who “left their proper abode” when they possessed humans (e.g. Genesis 6:2,4), and then were not allowed back into heaven, because they no longer had the bodies that God had given them?

    Vince

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    Hi Vince.
    It appears to be the case that the angels who “left their proper abode” (Jude 1:6) to possess men were not afterward allowed to re-enter their original bodies.  However, God definitely still allowed them into heaven (cf. 2Kgs. 22:19-22), until the resurrected Jesus banished Satan and all his angels from heaven forever.

    The sinful angels not being allowed to re-enter their original bodies, (which Jude also called “their own domain” — Jude 1:6), is different from not being allowed into heaven.

    Hope that is clear.
    Pastor John

  • What Satan Is: Allison

    Pastor John,

    This came to me.

    Satan is angry, bitter, hateful, a victim, disturbed, agitated, and not-at-peace. So is the world which he rules!

    Just as bad kings influenced their subjects during the Old Testament, so does Satan influence his subjects in this world.

    God help those who unknowingly continue to be ruled by Satan!

    ~Allison

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